It's About Time - US & Iran hold talks

Magnetic Poles · May 30, 2007

LadyEagle said:

Name one good reason why it is important for them to save face. Is that how politically correct you are, that our stated enemies who desire to blow us and Israel off the map need to "save face?"
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One good reason? For starters, sometimes you can give people a gracious way out of bad behavior and they take it. Like I said before, I don't know if it will work, and I doubt it. But it is worth a try. Lots to gain, even more to lose.

Well, if there are "many, many" as you say, name 3.
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1. Diplomacy
2. Economic Sanctions
3. Forge a REAL alliance to exert pressure both economically and politically

And how about a bonus . . .

4. Covert support to internal groups working to overthrow the current regime

And even another bonus . . .

5. Economic and political incentives to rejoin the civilized world.

LadyEagle · May 30, 2007

[sarcasm] Yes, by all means, you are right, we should allow them to "save face." When you discuss Iran, you are are discussing Hezbollah. Let's allow these jerks to save face:[/sarcasm]

July 19, 1982: The president of the American University in Beirut, Davis S. Dodge, is kidnapped. Hezbollah is believed to be behind this and most of the other 30 Westerners kidnapped over the next ten years.

April 18, 1983: Hezbollah attacks the U.S. embassy in Beirut with a car bomb, killing 63 people, 17 of whom were American citizens.

Oct. 23, 1983: The group attacks U.S. Marine barracks with a truck bomb, killing 241 American military personnel stationed in Beirut as part of a peace-keeping force. A separate attack against the French military compound in Beirut kills 58.

Sept. 20, 1984: The group attacks the U.S. embassy annex in Beirut with a car bomb, killing 2 Americans and 22 others.

March 16, 1984: William F. Buckley, a CIA operative working at the U.S. embassy in Beirut, is kidnapped and later murdered.

April 12, 1984: Hezbollah attacks a restaurant near the U.S. Air Force Base in Torrejon, Spain. The bombing kills eighteen U.S. servicemen and injures 83 people.

Dec. 4, 1984: Hezbollah terrorists hijack a Kuwait Airlines plane. Four passengers are murdered, including two Americans.

Feb. 16, 1985: Hezbollah publicizes its manifesto. It notes that the group's struggle will continue until Israel is destroyed and rejects any cease-fire or peace treaty with Israel. The document also attacks the U.S. and France.

June 14, 1985: Hezbollah terrorists hijack TWA flight 847. The hijackers severely beat Passenger Robert Stethem, a U.S. Navy diver, before killing him and dumping his body onto the tarmac at the Beirut airport. Other passengers are held as hostages before being released on June 30.

Feb. 17, 1988: The group kidnaps Col. William Higgins, a U.S. Marine serving with a United Nations truce monitoring group in Lebanon, and later murders him.

July 18, 1994: Hezbollah bombs the Jewish community center in Buenos Aires–again with Iranian help–killing 86 and injuring over 200.

Nov. 28, 1995: Hezbollah bombards towns in northern Israel with volleys of Katyusha rockets in one of the group's numerous attacks on Israeli civilians.

March 30, 1996: Hezbollah fires 28 Katyusha rockets into northern Israeli towns. A week later, the group fires 16 rockets, injuring 36 Israelis. Israel responds with a major offensive, known as the "Grapes of Wrath" operation, to stop Hezbollah rocket fire.

Aug. 19, 1997: Hezbollah opens fire on northern Israel with dozens of rockets in one of the group's numerous attacks on Israeli civilians.
October 1997: The United States lists Hezbollah as a terrorist organization.

Dec. 28, 1998: Hezbollah opens fire on northern Israel with dozens of rockets in one of the group's numerous attacks on Israeli civilians.

March 1, 2001: The British government adds Hezbollah's "military wing" to its list of outlawed terrorist organizations.
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The above is only a partial list: More is found here:

http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&x_outlet=118&x_article=1148

LadyEagle · May 30, 2007

3-page warning: This thread will be closed no sooner than 4:15 a.m. ET by one of the moderators.

LE

LadyEagle · May 31, 2007

Closed per previous notice. LE

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