It's that time of year again . . .

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  1. Aaron

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    In another thread:
    In law there is a difference between hunting and foraging. Foraging is gathering food whether it's berries or deer meat, but hunting is a reglated sport. It's the thrill of the kill that drives men to the woods at this time of year.

    Is hunting for sport a moral activity? Would Christ approve? I say no.
     
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    I personally don't know ANY hunters who just kill for the thrill of killing without using the meat in some way. Those who don't eat the meat themselves give it to others or donate it for charity programs. We've been on the recieving end of some delicious venison a few times, and we're always grateful for it. I doubt Christ has a problem with that.

    There are a few irresponsible hunters who may aim incorrectly and let the deer run off to die somewhere. It happens. I'd say it's quite possible we waste far more uneaten food throughout the year than a few deer during hunting season. Why pick on the hunters? I've seen far more waste on the floor of a local restaurant!
     
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    If killing thrills a person, then maybe they should stay home.
    I also say if you kill it you eat it, anything else is wrong. If you killed and simply give it away you killed for the thrill of killing, and thats wrong, killing should never be thrilling.
     
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    My brother takes my son elk and deer hunting twice a year. My son killed an elk with a bow and arrow this year. Hunting for them is a way to relax and unwind. Eating bad food, drinking scorched coffee, and farting around the campfire is a tradition for them.

    When they do kill an animal, they bring it back home, have it butchered, and we eat the meat all year long. It really helps with the grocery bills.

    Where do you think the wrapped meat at the grocery store comes from? An animal that someone killed. Yet I bet the elk and deer that my hunters get had a much better quality of life than the poor chicken or steer had.
     
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    Donna - I agree with you that killing should never be a thrill. However, we do have a good friend who is quite the hunter and he knows he can never eat everything he kills(part of the reason being his wife doesn't like it - but he loves it - but there is only so much one person can eat) But he keeps it all frozen and gives it to people in his (large) church who have hit hard times, or who just like venison, and thus they spend a lot less for their meat. Several years back when my husband was laid off he sent us home with coolers full. What a blessing! All his meat gets eaten, even though he doesn't eat it himself and he gives it away. I think that is ok. Just thought I'd mention it.
     
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    What if instead of hunting Bambi for food one wanted a trophy from a tiger? You supposed to eat that? Oh nevermind, I know…take a picture,

    BTW, while out camping one time I was confronted face to face by a pack of “giant deer” who didn’t look anything like Bambi, apparently seemed to think the forest belonged to them and wanted to rumble. Yo… I wasn’t in my own hood but I was down wit cappin as many of those gangstas as it took…
     
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    I see no purpose in hunting in this age. Meat and food are available every mile in the US. To claim it is done for the meat alone is an excuse, IMO to cover up the thrill of killing an animal unnecessarily.
     
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    We have a program here where hunters donate the deer for charity (I mentioned this in a previous post.) Not only does this feed the less fortunate, it helps less waste of our tax dollars on food stamps.

    Killing shouldn't be done just for a thrill, I agree, but the beef and chicken industires sure get a thrill from all the money they recieve for their efforts, don't they? Many of them don't care how the animals are treated. It's a business for them. At least hunters who donate aren't thinking of their own pocketbooks.

    I don't have a problem with deer/turkey/elk hunters. They help with population control of the animals. We've had deer almost total our cars and cause personal injury, because there were too many on the roads.

    I do have a problem with fishermen who catch and release a fish, leaving the fish with a hole in them where the hook caught. To me, that's barbaric. Killing and donating a deer? No.
     
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    Well, I don't know about that, I've seen people really enjoy eating their kills of deer and dove, and I've never seen either of those meats in the grocery store.

    If you were in the woods a big grizzly might decide he wants to eat you, does he have more rights than we do?
     
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    Killing in self defense is not hunting. I have also seen parents enjoy their children they created out of wedlock, so the enjoyment of something in itself does not make the preceding action right.
     
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    Not talking about self defense. I'm saying the grizzly might choose to eat you...and a person might choose to eat an animal they hunt. So does the bear have more rights?

    It's an immoral thing that leads to chidren out of wedlock (hope your not aiming for a low blow there), but God did not say not to hunt animals to eat. Apples and oranges.
     
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    No "low blow" intended, and if that applied to you in some manner, I honestly didn't know... and my apologies are given.

    If a bear is looking to eat me, it is because it is for survival. A hunter in the woods killing for sport is not doing so to survive.
     
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    Okay, but there's a fine line between survival and just a plain choice in what one wants to eat, the bear could have just ate some berrires instead. Seems you would give the bear more rights than us?

    I just don't see where we are forbidden to hunt for food at our discretion, and I do see that we have dominion over the animals.
     
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    There would be a reason for the bear to attack, whether it has young around, feels threatened, hungry, etc. Very rarely does an animal just attack for "sport", and even if they do, it is because we live in a fallen world, which doesn't mean that is how God intended it to be.
    I'm not arguing for hunting for food. I watch Man vs. Wild on Discovery :) I'm talking about a group of men who after a large breakfast go out to hunt for fun (who are not hungry, don't need the food).
     
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    AH, well, I've never been hunting and think of most of that kind of food as gross anyway, but I got to admit that if it were legal to hunt cows I might have some fun while out doing it, even if I had a big breakfast first.

    :wavey: Got to wash the dog and take him for a hike up a mountain.
     
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    I personally am not a hunter. When observing a hunting TV program with the host holding a kill upright by the antlers and remarking that this is a beautiful buck, my mind responds that he was a lot better looking standing on all fours. That said, deer populations (with the wane of natural predators) tend to increase which leads to starvation and disease among those critters in competing for food. In our area there are more and more auto accidents as a result of deer strikes. Some of those are as fatal to humans as they are to the deer. So for population control hunting seems to be a good thing. Hunting is also a great economic boon to many smaller communities (rural areas) including our own. So while it is not something that I participate in, I do not consider it in anyway inappropriate or immoral.
     
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    I don't hunt. My son does, and I'm thankful. I fully expect that within the next three years we will need to rely upon those skills to survive. And I'm not :laugh:.
     
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    I strongly disagree. The mass production of meat can be very vile and abusive, along with not being very healthy for the consumer. A Christian should be taught how to as self-sufficient as possible. That includes knowing how to hunt and grow foods, along with being able to make clothes. Letting ourselves be dependant on gov controlled entities/dollars for our basic needs should be avoided if at all possible. To call such self-suffiency needless is silly at best-dangerous and deadly are in the realm of possibility if you understand what the push for one world gov and currency might mean for us.
     
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    Hunting is a way of population control of deer and other animals. Without hunting we would be overrun. The animal population would suffer much worse as nature is much crueler in her from of population control in the form of famine and disease because of over crowding. Some of you have been watching too much Bambi and those "bad" hunters who kill his mother.
     
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    Supermarkets are not gov't ran, and I don't believe we will need to hunt to survive. I may be wrong, but I believe God will meet my needs regardless.
     
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