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Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by LorrieGrace, Oct 25, 2004.

  1. LorrieGrace

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    I want to know what you think of him. I have watched him off and on and notice that he is now mentioning Catholism in many of his programs. I don't know when he started doing this and why. Any thoughts?
     
  2. Dr. Bob

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    I knew Jack in the early 60s as a local church evangelist. Only fundamentalist and big on Russia and prophecy. Played the accordion and his wife Rexella sang like an angel.

    In the 70's he sought to broaden to city-wide type campaigns, more "evangelical" in nature.

    Now he has compromised all doctrinal integrity, speaks of the Pope as his "brother", keeps setting (and moving) dates for the coming of Christ, and typical $$$$ tv evangelist.

    He is still a good man, but I don't trust a word that comes from his mouth. Personal opinion.
     
  3. LorrieGrace

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    Thank you for your insight.
     
  4. Ray Berrian

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    Lorrie Grace,

    I do not follow Dr. Van Impe but have seen him at times on Sunday evening television though I usually turn to another channel. Many people call him 'the walking Bible' because he quotes Scripture along with the references. He believes, as do I, in the rapture of the church. I never heard him set a date for this event but does repeatedly emphasize the fact that Jesus is coming soon. He is dispensational in theology which I also find in the Scripture.

    He and his wife relate the newspaper headlines with the prophetic Scriptures.

    While I do not think all Catholics will be taken in the rapture, I do think many of them are forgiven in Christ, because they believe in Jesus and will be with Him forever. Much of there theology, is in error.

    Regards,
    Berrian, Th.D.
     
  5. LorrieGrace

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    Hi Ray,

    Yes, I never heard him called a walking Bible but watching him quote scripture and reference IS amazing!!! I, too, believe in the rapture and that Jesus is coming soon. I agree with you that some Catholics will be raptured along with ALL who believe that the only way to the Father is through Christ Jesus.

    Thank You, Lord for loving us so.
     
  6. I Am Blessed 24

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    I, like Dr. Bob, listened to him in the sixties and seventies.

    He got the name "the walking Bible" because he had memorized the entire New Testament.

    I haven't heard him for a long time and didn't realize that he had changed.

    Sad, he was a dynamic preacher.

    Here is his website:

    http://www.jvim.com/
     
  7. just-want-peace

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    I've never been a "fan" of him, but I have never heard a"DATE" mentioned, and the biggest reason I don't watch regularely is that I just don't like his style.

    I never heard anything that I would call non-biblical, but as I said I don't watch that much.
     
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    I have watched in times past, but not for 3-4 years. I have heard him date, the 2nd coming to "about the year 2013". I quit watching him because he has decided that we calvinistic type folks are going to split hades wide open.
     
  9. Ray Berrian

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    Dr. Van Impe always seems to be very excited about his message from God. With all of the eschatology taught, he sure does not keep it in the realm of the negative.

    In my opinion, if a person depends of his or her theology alone, to taken them to Heaven, they will miss this eternal abode of God. But, if they believe and love Jesus, they will be seen in Heaven among the saints of God.
     
  10. Dr. Bob

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    Jack has repeatedly set "dates" for coming of Christ (rapture) and subsequent Tribulation.

     
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    His telecasts are newscast style, tying news stories to prophecy. Seems a little campy at times.

    One of his programs was actually instrumental in bringing me back to faith by reminding me in a very dramatic way what I was taught as a child and what I knew in my heart.
     
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    Two words: Con Artist.
     
  13. I Am Blessed 24

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    Joseph - I wouldn't go that far...
     
  14. Ray Berrian

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    In the Islamic countries 98-99% believe in Allah. In these muliple countires there is no tolerance for other faiths, like Judaism or Christianity. The Christian population is about 1/2 of one percent or just a shade more. In Saudi Arabia you can get jailed or have a hand cut off for preaching the Gospel or trying to set up a Christian church. We have Islamic mosques in our Lehigh Valley with growing memberships. How about in your city--if you live in a larger city?

    Where are we headed as a nation when Christians are voting against a pro-life, pro-family President?

    As to the reestablishing of the animal sacrifices, the Bible points to this during the earthly reign of Christ on the earth for 1,000 years. This will be a memorial pointing back and elevating the fact of Christ's greater [Hebrews 9:26b] and once for all sacrifice for all sinners. [I John 2:2] Zechariah chapter 14 and from Ezekiel 36- chapters 48 you will see references to the Millennial Temple, the priests, the sacrifices, the restored Sabbath and Christ Who will be worshipped with His seat of authority in Jerusalem. [Zechariah 14:9 & 16] So pastor Dr. Van Impe is right on target with his end times events. Messianic Christians have a very clear understanding of these future events; some Christians have not found out this truth at this point in time.

    Maybe Dr. Van Impe keeps a lot of religious people informed as to what is going on in the world. No one is all bad.
     
  15. Carolina Baptist

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    I heard him cite Scripture and give a reference. I looked up the reference and it had nothing to do with his "quote". I only checked up on him once so it may have been the only time, but he missed it that time.
     
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    I wasn't aware that we had a pro-life, pro-family president. You sure couldn't tell that by his record.

    I'm appalled at the bashing of anyone who doesn't fit the exact "Baptist" mold that you people lay out here. So Jack Van Impe sets dates related to the end times and the rapture. So has Pat Robertson. How many fundamental Baptists jumped on his bandwagon? So has Tim LaHaye. And he's loaded up his bank account with the dollars of many a Baptist as well. The whole dispensational, premillenial movement has been tempted to cross into the date setting, and has often done so, along with often ill-fated attempts at linking current news events to end time and rapture prophecies. The one thing they all have in common is that they've all been wrong right up to this point.

    Why can't you people stop bashing other brethren who only desire to teach and preach. They may not agree with the conclusions you or your favorite preacher have drawn, but that isn't the standard of truth.
     
  17. Dr. Bob

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    We don't bash people because we are mean, friend. We bash FALSE TEACHING.

    Jack is false in setting dates. God said not to do it and JAck can't help himself. We show that with exact quotations.

    Pat is false in his health-and-wealth prosperity Gospel. We show that.

    Tim is false in his presentation of fiction-mixed-with-doctrine (that leads to false belief in folks who don't understand fiction). He was really wrong in his temperaments, and no telling what he will sell next. Salesmanship to gullible christians should be below a man of God.

    So we don't agree with the PRINCIPLES or the PRACTICES. Doesn't mean we don't like the people, wouldn't have lunch with them or thik they are terrible.

    They just are teaching error and that is open for debate and discussion here. You know, if THEY posted here, they would probably say that "I" was teaching error.
     
  18. Dan Todd

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    Went to JVI crusades in Elmira, NY many years ago. He's known as the "Walking Bible" because he had memorized about 1/4 of the Bible. He (at least when I heard him preach) has to work at his memorization - he does not have photographic memory.

    The one thing I remember about his preaching from that time is that he was one of the few preachers who thought America was is Bible prophecy. I have his message on tape on that subject - somewhere in my home. He has to really work and strain the get America in Bible prophecy - and I believe he is wrong in his attempts to do so!

    Dan - my two cents - for what it is worth!

    PS another preacher I used to enjoy hearing preach is James Robinson (sp) - but I think he's gone off the charasmatic deep end! - Again - just my opinion!
     
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    Must agree with Dr. Bob on this one. We must never give credence to faulty doctrine, but we ought always to show grace and love to our fellow humans, and show the wisdom in kowing the difference.

    I happen to think dispensationalism to be one of the most dangerous viewpoints in fundamental circles, but I have never disfellowshipped with my fellow preachers who so embraced those doctrines. And I should hope they never regard me as anything but a true friend.

    On the "big-name" preachers, I sometimes think their popularity has caused them to stretch their views to remain fresh and attractive. Pride has led not a few to fall by the wayside on the peripherals.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
  20. Bro Tony

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    I agree with Jim and Dr Bob when it comes to the direction Jack Van Impe has gone. And I do think that LaHaye is stretching the biblical truth in his series and does most of it to make money. I mean come on 12 books written in large type with wide space between lines and some of them not given much information; someone has stretch this out to make money.

    I am not in agreement with Jim that dispensationalism is a dangerous viewpoint. That being said I believe I would enjoy fellowshipping with Jim and discussing the things of God with him.

    Bro Tony
     
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