There are those on this forum who cannot deal with Romans 3:25-5:2 and Paul's systematic definition and defense of justification by faith without works. So they play the RJP (RUN from the context of Romans, JUMP to another context in James and then PIT James against Romans). So in this thread we take up James and see if the continue to play the RJP game from this context. 1. All the illustrations given in James 2:14-20 are those of men and angels who are TOTALLY WITHOUT ANY GOOD WORKS WHATSOEVER! There are no illustrations given where evil works simply out number good works but all the illustrations are "WITHOUT" good works totally and completely. 2. All the illustrations given in James 2:14-26 are HORIZONTAL illustrations BEFORE MEN whereas Romans 4:1 clearly states that Paul is dealing with Abraham "before God." 16 And one of you say unto them....18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. The key words here are "SHEW THEE MY FAITH BY MY WORKS" - James is speaking of EVIDENTIAL JUSTIFICATION BY WORKS. Rahab showed the two spys and then shewed all Israel by hanging the red cord for all to see. Abraham showed Isaac and his servant 3. The final illustration in Verse 26 once again the illustration is a faith WITHOUT ANY GOOD WORKS whatsoever - Again EVIDENTIAL JUSTIFICATION BY WORKS is the subject.