Jerry Falwell on the Crucifixion

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    I don't have big problem with that.
     
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    irrelevant.

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    The actual times of Jesus' crucifixion and resurrection are not universally agreed on.

    "I personally believe he was crucified on Wednesday evening ... and rose after 6 p.m. Saturday evening," Falwell tells WorldNetDaily.

    "Others believe he died on Friday ... But the point is, he did rise on Sunday, which, in Jewish tradition, started the evening before at 6 p.m."

    Jerry Falwell is among those who believe which day is chosen is not of great significance. "I don't think Saturday or Sunday are more sacred than other days," he says. He also points out there have been so many calendar changes over the years, chronologists are not even certain that a day of the week in the 21st century matches the same day from centuries ago.

    http://www.sweenytod.com/rno/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=789


    The Chronology of Christ's Crucifixion
    & Resurrection
    http://www.centuryone.com/crucifixion.html
     
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    I don't understand the significance of this thread.
     
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    Hi,C4K ----

    Biblical evidence does NOT point to a Friday Crucifixion.

    Jerry Falwell knows what most Christians do not know --- Jesus died late Wednesday afternoon, before sunset --- and rose late Saturday afternoon, before sunset.
     
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    I don't know how many people really hold definitely to a Friday crucifixion. I can see arguements for Wednesday or Thursday.

    BTW, Falwell says it was AFTER 6.00, making the resurrection on Sunday, which started then in the Jewish calendar.

    But, does it matter?
     
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    We will never resolve the time and day issue on this question. Do consider the Jewish reckoning of time,,,where a part of a day is considered as a full day...so, three days and three nights may only be portions thereof.

    As others have said, the timing is irrelevant; the fact of the resurrection is not.

    Cheers,

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    Oh right I understand your agenda now.

    It was "Sunday," which began after sunset on what is now Saturday. Which is exactly what Falwell said.

    I didn't realise that this was going to be a sabbatarian thread. I thought the signicance was the crucifixion statement.
     
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    1) 6 pm is not the cut-off time for new days beginning --- sunset is.


    2) Jesus' DEAD BODY was taken down BEFORE sunset, BEFORE the next day began. Therefore, Jesus would rise from the dead BEFORE Saturday was over.
     
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    Disagree - but not going to argue here - neither one of us can prove our point.

    If I had realised the agenda here I wouldn't have posted. You used Falwell to say something that you wanted him to say, not what he intended.

    Ciao [​IMG]
     
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    Don't be afraid of the truth C4K --- the truth is the only thing that really exists.
     
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    If Luke 24 is correct (and I believe it is) that Sunday during the day time IS the "THIRD day" since the crucifixion - then the crucifixion can not have been before Friday.

    IMHO.

    In Christ,

    Bob
     
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    Brother. those who disagree with you don't necessarily fear the truth.

    If you choose to worship the Lord on Saturday, amen - praise the Lord you are worshipping Him.
     
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    So your making a point and hanging your hat on this for what reason?
     
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    A.T. Robertson offers this chronology, based on Luke's version of the gospel:

    Luke settles the matter pointedly by mentioning all the time between the crucifixion and the resurrection (Luke 23: 50-24:3) The burial tok place Friday afternoon just before the Sabbath drew on (Luke 23:54) The women rested on the Sabbath (Saturday) (Luke23:56), and went to the sepulchre early Sunday morning, the first day of the week (Luke 24:1) There is no escaping this piece of chronology...."

    A Harmony of the Gospels, A.T. Robertson, 1922

    Cheers,

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    It's of NO consequence what importance WE attached to the chronology of Jesus' suffering, dying and rising from the dead again. Paul, reckoned it part and parcel of the Gospel: "according to the Scriptures"! (1Cor.15) Not a single data asks for our definitions or evaluations - it is for God to decide on those issues; and He plainly IN CHRIST attached utmost importance to them, so much as to bring the Church and its existential life in pace with it. Why you think celebrated the Church her Sabbaths, "feasting" - "nourishment being ministered by bands and joints" from the Head to the Body "of Christ's"? (Col.2:16,17,19)
     
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    It is so important to the Christian ESTABLISHMENT it is seen fit to wangle the Written Word of God as if the word and doctrine of mere men.
     
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    You are forgetting to observe on which day the crucifixion had to have been - point no. one.
    Second: You are forgetting to observe the ultimate issue: upon which day Christ rose from the dead?
    AT Robertson ... now there's someone to listen to! And what did he say about this? You, tell us!
     

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