Jesus Christ and th first commandment.

DHK, That is what I have always been taught. Plus, David was speaking of Christ when he said Lord and speaking of the Father when he said LORD.

 

webdog, the answer may be in the fact that suspensions are for 10 days, bans are normally permanent. But, as sfiC was accused falsely, the ban was probably lifted

 

The word "LORD" simply means Jehovah.
That is the way the KJV translators differentiated between other words for God such as Adonai or Elohim.
The Jehovah said unto my Adonai...
Adonai means: lord, master, sovereign, and can also refer to "God the Father," or the first person of the trinity.
Jehovah is the personal covenantal name that God chose to use with Israel. It reveals a personal relationship that the Lord (Jehovah) had with his people.

I believe that the Jehovah of the OT is the Jesus of the NT.

Would you have a problem with that statement.

 

There is no "suspension" label. Even those suspended for 10 days have "banned" under their name.

 

DHK, I have no problem with your stance on who Christ is concerning the OT. Jesus said to search the Scriptures for in them you think you have eternal life, but they are they that testify of me. If God has revealed that that indeed it Christ, then praise the Lord. As of yet, I see LORD as speaking of the Father. But why come to blows over that if we serve the same Christ?

 

Hi guys,

Just wanted to step in a sec. I will not argue Exodus 20 any more as I see many who are offended at my beliefs.

webdog,
When I was suspended before, the message I got was that I had been suspended for 10 days. It did not say banned at that time. This time, the message specifically stated 'Banned" and the reason: For being a modelist.

Thank you Admins and Moderators for lifting the ban.

 

When Brother Bob was suspended last year it stated "banned". Sue informed me this is what is placed under the name of someone suspended.

 

The note under the name may say banned, but the message the offender gets tells him or her whether he or she is suspended for 10 days, or banned.

 

Someone once wisely said:
I see Christ in the OT concealed;
but in the NT revealed.

Look at the phrase "angel of the LORD." It is used 80 times.
In almost every time it is used it refers to Christ. The term is a Christophany or an appearance of Christ. Here is an example:

Judges 6:12 And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him, and said unto him, The LORD is with thee, thou mighty man of valour.

Who appeared to Gideon in order to give him reassurance?
Was it God, an angel, or Christ? Of course Christ is God. The angel of Jehovah is Christ.

Genesis 18:1 And the LORD appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day;
Genesis 18:2 And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him: and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground,
Genesis 18:3 And said, My Lord, if now I have found favour in thy sight, pass not away, I pray thee, from thy servant:

Who appeared to Abraham?
The text says that it was Jehovah himself.
Verse 3, Abraham addresses him as Lord or Adonai. He still recognizes him as deity. He knew who he was talking to. If you go to the end of the chapter you find Abraham communing with this same God, interceding for the people of Sodom, for he knew that Lot and his family were there. Only God could stop the destruction of it. The angels had already proceeded toward the city to destroy it.

Jehovah is Jesus. Jesus is God.

 

As Christians living in A.D. 2008, with the complete Bible in our hands, we can not, (Should not) be attempting to read the OT acting as if the NT has not been written. We have the benefit of the NT to help explain the OT to us. As Amy G. has so clearly pointed out God the Father and Jesus Christ the Son are One and can not, must not, be seperated. When the OT text states that, "You shall have no other gods before Me" (Ex. 20:3) of course it applies to Christ. Don't be dogmatic holding on to a misinformed position based on someone else's stated meaning of English words like LORD, Lord, and lord...:BangHead:

 

Let me be one of the first ones to welcome you back.

I know we have our theological differences, but I was somewhat saddened by the initial report.

The Mods and Admins made a wise decision, IMO.

 

Welcome back

 

I will welcome you and Linda back and call you my Brother and Sister. I hope the same from you. I first thought it a good thing and that I wouldn't miss you. I was wrong. Everyone here has theological differences but, in the end we are Brothers and Sisters. Again welcome back.

 

I was suspended for 10 days and still feel it was not deserved. I just happen to be in a heated discussion with Joseph Bos..... (sic) who got banned completely. I was shocked by the ban, but think I got caught up in something he had already sowed, but I am a guest here.

BTW, I pulled the entire 10 days.

On the Trinity, it is impossible to have one without all three. What purpose does it serve to try and separate them? When Jesus was here as the son of God, He said, if you have seen me, you have seen the Father.

BBob, :godisgood:

 

Good for you Bob..
I respect people like you.

 

Wy would God/Jesus Christ be subject to the schoolmaster?

 

He is not subject to the schoolmaster.
He is the subject of the schoolmaster.

Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

The "me" is the subject of this thread--Jehovah/Jesus Christ.

 

understood but you are missing my point. The law is our schoolmaster and show us that we are sinners.

 

Perhaps I am missing your point.
Yes, indeed. Paul teaches us that the law is our schoolmaster. It shows us our sin, and thus points us to Christ.

But it is God who said: "Thou shalt have no other gods before me," and it is God who must be obeyed, both in the OT, and in the NT. God condemns idolatry.

1 John 5:21 Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.

 

Is Christ GOD?