1 Cor 15:47 47The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven. One of the great biblical truthes of the person of the messiah, is that his origin even as a man, is from heaven. I dont believe there is a clearer verse of scripture than our text. Many believe that Jesus Christ didnt become man until the virgin birth, but thats not true, He was the GodMan Mediator from everlasting. No, i am not advocating that he had flesh and blood, but that he was a Spiritual Heavenly Man[ As an Angel ] with a Heavenly Body, Created out of the Godhead. Here are more scriptures that imply Jesus Christ was a man before the incarnation: Jn 6:62 62What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he[ Son of man] was before? Here it plainly indicates that he was the son of man before he descended to be born of a virgin.. Eph 4:8-9 8Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. 9(Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? 10He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.) He that descended [ in the incarnation] is the same [son of man] who ascended.. Jn 3:30-31 30He must increase, but I must decrease. 31He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all. John the baptist appears to understand the heavenly origin of this man..also: Jn 1:30 30This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me. Jn 16:27 27For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God His disciples realized his heavenly origin.. 28 I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father 30 Now are we sure that thou knowest all things, and needest not that any man should ask thee: by this we believe that thou camest forth from God. Jn 6:33,50,58 33 The true bread of God is the one who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world 50 Anyone who eats the bread from heaven, however, will never die. 58 I am the true bread that came down from heaven. Anyone who eats this bread will not die as your ancestors did (even though they ate the manna) but will live forever The reference to Jesus calling himself bread, is indicative of him being of subtance, in a body, before he came down from heaven note: he didnt come down to become bread, but he was bread who came down.. later he says the bread is his flesh..Jn 6:51 51I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world. Remember Jesus said this Jn 17:5 5And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. The Glory as the Godman Mediator.. There are many more verses that imply Jesus Christ was the GodMan Mediator, before the incarnation..He was before all things, as the head of the Church: Col 1:15-18 15Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: 16For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. 18And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. This is a essential truth of the person of Jesus christ, its who Jesus christ is as he left heaven to come and die for the sins of the Church, His body..