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Jesus was a racist?

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by preachinjesus, Feb 23, 2009.

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  1. Aaron

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    Savage peoples have no rights to the land. The cup of their iniquity was full.
     
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    IF Jesus was racist, racism isn't a sin and we should embrace it.

    If racism is a sin, then Jesus was not a racist.

    That's a pretty easy conclusion to come to.
     
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    This thread just demonstrates the value of some degrees!

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
    #23 Jim1999, Feb 24, 2009
  4. Aaron

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    Worse than that, it is saying He didn't preach the Kingdom of Heaven perfectly.
     
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    The article has nothing to do with a degree or the institutions they are obtained from. Individuals make choices regardless of training when they become blinded by hate because their personal agenda is not received.

    What needs to happen here is prayer for this wayward man not the bashing of institutions which do not teach such things.
     
    #25 Revmitchell, Feb 24, 2009
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    Ok Rev I'm taking it easy. All I can say was Jesus was not a racist but making a point. He still healed that womans son. This guy was making a decent point in that Jesus ministered to the outcast and that maybe we blame too much on the illegals. But the problem is that they are still illegal which by definition is wrong. We can't blame them for wanting to make a better life for themselves or their families, we shouldn't persecute them and treat them as God wants all foriegners treated. However, to stop the illegal problem we need to bust the business that hire them. Too often do they turn a blind eye to these people so they can increase their prophit margin.
     
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    I am amazed that this site is still open!!!!

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
    #27 Jim1999, Feb 24, 2009
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    Agreed! This kind of theological tripe doesn't only damage the credibility of the man who writes it but also the institution he is employed at professionally. One of the major issues here is that he took a liberationist view of a passage and twisted the meaning to attempt to advocate for his position.

    The whole thing is just plain troubling imho. His exegesis is bad and his application worse.

    It's pretty close to that too. I'm not one to throw around the word "heresy" but this is bad. I don't understand why ABP hasn't already pulled it and apologized.

    But maybe they are just trying to add more theological fodder for the fundamentalist fire against them in the SBC. Seems a silly thing to do.
     
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    While I don't suggest for a second that we need to formalize any kind of hardline, dogmatic theological positions for graduation...I think we can all agree that adherence to the basic tennents of orthodoxy is a place to start.

    I've long advocated that our Baptist seminaries institute a through exit examination process for anyone attempting to leave their MACE/MRE/MDiv/MATh programs for ministry. Accountants have the CPA exam, doctors the medical board, lawyers the state Bar exam, educators a state exam, etc. How is it that pastors and ministers get a "test free degree" that doesn't require them to possess any knowledge beyond what it takes to get through each individual class. These aforementioned professional schools and organizations treat their degrees as capstone, cumulative ventures where every part is to be (eventually) recapitulated. Why not for ministers?

    While we can't begin to believe it would keep this kind of foolish from the eyes and ears of the world it would certainly help us out.
     
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    This is right on!:thumbs:
     
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    What do you mean by the statement that savage peoples have no rights to the land? Do you mean the American Indians had no right to the land they lived on and hunted on? Why not? They couldn't pass the white man's IQ test? They knew more about living in harmony with the land than we do. At least they didn't pollute the land, water and air to the extent that some areas are barely habitable.

    Do you have Biblical support for this position?
     
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    Your response is not indicated by your pseudonym!
     
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    This guy is a racist and apparently his racism kept him from reading the last verse [Matthew 15:28]. He certainly has no knowledge of Jesus Christ. As someone has said why would a Baptist press print such heresy? Are we already on the "Down Grade".
     
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    Your response is not indicated by your pseudonym!
     
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    Spare me the revisionist history. The biblical support is in my post. It assumes the reader has a working knowledge of the Scriptures.
     
    #35 Aaron, Feb 25, 2009
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    Au contraire mon petit ami

    I do not qualify what stuff I'm actually thinking about or how I'm thinking. You assume I mean I'm thinking in a superior manner or that I'm considering lofty ideals. Neither is a requirement of the psuedomym. It only indicates that I'm thinking stuff. Neither does it indicate that I would necissarily agree with you.
     
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    How in the world does this topic end up being 4 pages long...

    The subject is so ridiculous it gives me a headache every time I see it on here!

    Blah! :eek:
     
    #37 CoJoJax, Feb 25, 2009
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    Spare me the platitudes. I asked you a question. Do you believe the American Indians had no right to their land?
     
    #38 JustChristian, Feb 25, 2009
  19. Aaron

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    What you're asking is, were the Native Americans savage? Yes, with few exceptions.
     
    #39 Aaron, Feb 26, 2009
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    Okay seriously guys (Aaron and JustChristian) let it go.

    You've completely tanked my thread, so thanks for that.
     
    #40 preachinjesus, Feb 26, 2009
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