Arminians often cite John 3:16 as if it was somehow contradictory to the Doctrines of Grace. If you ever cite John 3:16 in your post’s on the this board, before you post in this specific forum, please follow the link below and read the post on John 3:16 in its “entirety”. http://p207.ezboard.com/fdiscussingreformationfrm2.showMessage?topicID=650.topic Also: Here is the full response to Dave Hunt if anyone is interested. http://aomin.org/DHOpenLetter.html Once you do this please do the following: Point out any one or many disagreements that you have with this specific presentation of John 3:16 and why you disagree. Thanks to my Arminian brothers in Christ who have been willing to discuss these important issues. In Christ P.S. Please take the time to read the post on the supplied link. I do not want to just throw proof texts around. If you want to post on this forum please take the time to see where I am coming from.