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Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Servent, Aug 8, 2005.
What do you know about him,I have have heard him once or twice but dont know much about him.
Expect to get a lot of negative input about him, complete with rumors. But he's among the many evangelists and pastors who don't quite cut the mustard according to this crowd....
I like him, too, BTW, & occasionally catch him when channel surfing.
Here's his web site:
Okay, I'll leave now.
I use to like him until I kept hearing him talk about how all jews are going to Heaven and all.
Here I thought that only those under the blood of Jesus were Heaven bound? Silly me.
Hagee is a nut and a false prophet.
I'm with LadyEagle...I like him too. But then again, there's a few other TV preachers that I enjoy listening to that most folks on this board don't like, like Frederick K.C. Price and Jesse Duplantis.
i liked hagee at first but now (that i have theology) his church is a bowl of cereal, and he is the largest flake, read for yourself: http://www.pfo.org/jonhagee.htm
anyone who says anyone not saved by Jesus is going to heaven is a false prophit
That link takes you to something written by a guy named Richard Fisher (who knows what his agenda is) and he quotes the Houston Chronicle (and who knows what the agenda of that reporter is) supposedly quoting John Hagee. Considering all the books John Hagee has written and the sermons he's preached, I'd think that if you were going to rip into his ministry and label him a false teacher you could at least do your homework and find a direct quote to support what you say, instead of third hand information.
I watch John Hagee on T.V. Cable at TBN many times. I do not like his attitude.
One time several years ago, he preached on diet to the congregation with big displays of diet. But himself is a fat man. Now, he seems getting losing some weights.
He also preaching on prophecy like as rapture. That is type of dispensationalism doctrine. I do not agree with him.
He seems boast and think he always right as what he preaching from God's Word. His preaching have lot of errors, and even, he is a hyprocrisy.
Actually, myself do not focus on TBN on T.V. often, because it is greedy and filled of lies.
Do not believe everything what they saying on TBN. Let's focus on God's Word than being watching on T.V.
Rev. 22:20 -Amen!
Amen,, DPT!! Now---if we can just get you to convert over to the Pre-trib "tribe"--we'd make you a good SBCer!!! Hint: The Bar-B-Q is better on the front side of the second coming!!!
Your buddy always,
Hagee has been quoted over and over again as believing Jews go to Heaven differant than Gentiles. Just go to GOOGLE or any other search engine and you can get various heretical quotes of his belief in 2 ways to Heaven.
That's unethical. If you're going to attack the man's ministry, YOU go to Google and get the examples of his heretical quotes, don't tell me to do it.
It is quite common knowledge that he divorced his wife and married the church secretary years ago.
Yes. He's the televangelist who weighs 500 pounds, but sells weight loss products on his show.
That link takes you to something written by a guy named Richard Fisher (who knows what his agenda is) and he quotes the Houston Chronicle (and who knows what the agenda of that reporter is) supposedly quoting John Hagee. Considering all the books John Hagee has written and the sermons he's preached, I'd think that if you were going to rip into his ministry and label him a false teacher you could at least do your homework and find a direct quote to support what you say, instead of third hand information. </font>[/QUOTE]Actually, Rich Fisher is a reputable guy.
He works for a ministry called "Personal Freedom Outreach", which was cofounded and run by Bill and Joan Cetnar, who's son, Phil, was a close friend of mine many years ago.
Bill and Joan were also partners with Walter Martin many years ago and their teaching series with him, "Jehovah's Witnesses at Your Door", is an apologetics classic.
I don't know him personally, but I do know the ministry and I do know the family.
Anything asociated with the Cetnars is alright in my book.
This is a great example of Christian gossip (which is a sin). I see very little discussion of Hagee's actual teachings just rumors and gossip. I see one person even saying that it is "common knowledge" that he divorced his wife and married the church secretary. I don't know if that is true or not but before someone makes a claim like that they should support it with evidence (facts) otherwise it is just gossip. I see others saying what Hagee believes (etc) with little/no supporting evidence from Hagee's works! If he is a false teacher let's discuss HIS teachings, not what someone else says his teachings are!
Btw, I am not a fan or supporter of Hagee.
Let's stop the gossip.
oooo, I am so not going to be popular after this....this could be worse then when I said on CARM that James Dobson compromises the gospel!
Actually it would be unethical if what I was saying was false. We've discussed this over and over gain before in the past in this Forum of Hagee's heresy (I do not use that term lightly). There is a well documented interview with the Houston Chronicle plus others where Hagee states his belief that faithful Jews will go to Heaven without Christ. He does not hide these views but are well known.
Hagee is a false teacher who teaches 2 ways to Heaven. Here is 2 sources. I am sure you can find more.
Nope, not good enough. You are wrong to attack a man's ministry based on what someone else says. You linked to the same article that was linked on the first page. That's third hand information. It shouldn't be that hard for you to find a direct quote from JH. Gossip doesn't have to be false to be wrong.
Of all the boards I've been a part of, the Baptist Board is the worst at this kind of stuff. Joel Osteen was torn to shreds on here, and not one single direct quote was given to support him being a false teacher, and now you guys are doing the same thing to John Hagee. You should be ashamed.
It is not what someone else says. They are direct quotes of Hagee in a Houston newspaper and also from TBN broadcasrs. To say Hagee doesn't believe what he says he believes is like saying D.James Kennedy is not a Calvinist or Adrian Rogers is not a Baptist DESPITE the fact they say they are. I don't think Hagee has any problems with his quotes but embraces them.
As for Osteen, perhaps you have never heard him preach or heard any of his interviews.
I'll ask again. With all the books he has written and sermons he preached, why do you have to go to the secular media to find ammo against him?