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Discussion in '2005 Archive' started by StefanM, Jun 27, 2005.

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  1. dianetavegia

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    Diane asks: Which IS it? Either truth is simple and profound and error is mysterious or "Mystery" is an excellent choice of words to describe the understanding Calvinist have concerning God's will in salvation.

    Reading your two remarks, I'd say you're saying mystery/ mysterious is error while truth is simple; ergo Calvinism is error.
     
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  2. prophecynut

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    Human errors remain a mystery because there is no truth in them to be revealed.

    God's truth in a mystery will be revealed to those who understand.

    Two totally different mysteries, one is made up of lies the other truth.
     
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  3. Wes Outwest

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    Yep, Prophesynut, it's pure mystery to me why anyone with the ability to think, would believe the Calvinist doctrine. P.T.Barnham was right! There's a sucker born every second! A sucker is one who is gullible to the lies of others!
     
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  4. prophecynut

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  5. dianetavegia

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    So if
    "Mystery" is an excellent choice of words to describe the understanding Calvinist have concerning God's will in salvation and if This mystery has been revealed to and accepted by those who know the will of God then why can not ONE of you explain it the same way or explain this great mystery so others, even other Calvinists, can understand it.

    You Calvinists (general use of you) use the word MYSTERY everytime you are unable to answer a question and yet wouldn't allow a non Calvinist to use such an enigma!

    Prophecynut said: Apparently you are lacking in this understanding because you still are trying to please God with your 1% effort.

    Diane replies: Nope! I try to give God 100%.
     
    #145 dianetavegia, Jul 12, 2005
  6. rc

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    Truth is simple and profound ....


    Prophecynut.
    I'm not doubting your mind or your command of conveying thought, but that was a quote wasn't it? Who said it? If it was you, bravo....

    Those who never read books, will never be read.
    And those who never quote men will never be quoted. ~ Spurgeon
     
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  7. prophecynut

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    I

    "why can not ONE of you explain it the same way or explain this great mystery so others, even other Calvinists, can understand it."

    I just explained the mystery and you were not able to understand, if there are any Calvinists out there who do not understand please speak up. There may be many different explanations that achieve the same answer. Calvinists understand that God is 100% responsible for their salvation which is the answer of the mystery, it doesn't matter how you arrive at it.

    You cannot understand the answer, why? Is it stubbornness, pride or refusal to acknowledge the truth?

    You are not depending on God 100% for your salvation because you insist humans have free will to accept Christ. A human decision is works, there is no way around this fact, period.

    Are there any Calvinist who don't understand my explanation of the mystery?
     
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  8. rc

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    Nope! I try to give God 100%.

    But your theology fails you.
     
    #148 rc, Jul 12, 2005
  9. prophecynut

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    rc I don't know the original source of the quote, it was given to me by Heart Talker on the Forum: Other Christian Denomination, Topic: The Bride of Christ page 2

    Are you a Calvinist? Giving 100% is not the same as accepting 100%
     
    #149 prophecynut, Jul 12, 2005
  10. dianetavegia

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    Here's the whole thing and it was from a webpage. http://www.whatistruth.info/

    Jerry's Haven 'n Tell

     
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  11. rc

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    I'm a Paulinian! lol..

    That was a quote from Diane not I. I would dare say I have ANYTHING to give to Christ. You are correct in your statement sir.

    Post Tenebras Lux

    RC
     
    #151 rc, Jul 14, 2005
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