In another thread, BobinKy cited this quote. I'm sure that this view is based on a couple of scriptures: Matthew 7:1 Judge not that ye be not judged. Luke 6:37 Do not judge, and you will not be judged; and do not condemn, and you will not be condemned; pardon, and you will be pardoned. Then, we have I Corinthians 6:1-3 1 How can any one of you with a case against another dare to bring it to the unjust for judgment instead of to the holy ones? 2 Do you not know that the holy ones will judge the world? If the world is to be judged by you, are you unqualified for the lowest law courts? 3 Do you not know that we will judge angels? Then why not everyday matters? I underlined verse three. which clearly says we are to judge. I also understand the context is a dispute between two believers, and Paul is saying the believers ought to ask the church to judge instead of secular courts. But in judging the dispute, the members are required to judge motives, as well as right and wrong. In I Cor 5, Paul calls on the congregation to expel a member involved in sexual sin. In other words, to pass judgment. In still other words, to be judgmental. In Matthew 18, Jesus specifically instructs the disciples regarding an offending member. In other words, to pass judgment. In still other words, take it to the church for judgment. In more than one of his letters, Paul addressed the recipients as brothers, as the elect, as beloved of God. Clearly, Paul has passed judgment on their salvation experiences and deemed them valid. I think the scriptures don't conflict, so there is some explanation that will resolve these apparent differences. Wanna take a crack at this? Release the hounds.