Judges and Ruth

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  1. Rippon

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    Judges
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    1:3
    K -- into thy lot
    N -- into the territory allotted to us

    1:28
    K -- put the Canaanites to tribute
    N --they forced the Canaanites into forced labor

    1:36
    K -- from the going up to Akrabbim from the rock,and upward
    N -- from Scorpian Pass to Sela and beyond

    3:24
    K -- Surely he covereth his feet
    N -- He must be relieviing himself

    3:25
    K -- they tarried till they were ashamed
    N -- They waited to the point of embarrassment

    4:18
    K -- mantle
    N -- blanket

    7:13
    K --his fellow
    N --his friend

    11:3
    K -- vain men
    N -- a gang of scoundrels

    14:16
    K -- rent a kid
    N -- torn a young goat

    15:19
    K -- his spirit came again
    N -- his strength returned

    16:7
    K -- seven green withs
    N -- seven green bow strings

    16:9
    K --a thread of tow
    N --a piece of string

    16:25
    K -- he made them sport
    N -- he performed for them

    18:4
    K -- Thus and thus dealeth Miccah with me
    N -- what Micah had done for him

    18:9
    K -- are ye still
    N -- Aren't you going to do something?

    20:42
    K -- they turned their backs
    N -- they fled

    20:45
    K -- gleaned of them in highways five thousand men
    N -- cut down five thousand men along the roads

    20:48
    K -- all that came to hand
    N -- everything else they found

    21:6
    K -- repented
    N -- grieved
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    Ruth

    3:9
    K -- a near kinsman
    N -- a guardian-redeemer of our family

    3:16
    K -- Who art thou,my daughter?
    N -- How did it go,my daughter?

    4:4
    K -- I am after thee
    N -- I am next in line

    4:6
    K -- redeem thou my right to thyself
    N -- you redeem it yourself

    4:7
    K -- this was a testimony in Israel
    N -- This was the method of legalizing transactions in Israel.
     
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    Am enjoying these posts. Please keep them coming.
     
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    Thank you. Are there any observations you have made?
     
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    Judges 7:13
    his neighbour [1560 Geneva Bible]
    his companion [NKJV]
     
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    Just general observations that the KJV can be confusing and cause one to skip over verses because one cannot understand the text as written.

    I've got a list of particularly confusing KJV verses and your findings have increased the list somewhat.

    Example from my list:
    2 Peter 2:3

    3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make "merchandise of you": whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not. [KJV]
    3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping. [NIV]
     
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    Jud. 1:7 Seventy (Geneva, NKJV) Threescore and ten (KJV)

    Jud. 5:12 sing a song (Geneva, NKJV) utter a song (KJV)

    Jud. 8:14 seventy and seven (Geneva) threescore and seventeen (KJV)
    seventy-seven (NKJV)

    Jud. 9:36 tops of the mountains (Geneva, NKJV) top of the mountains (KJV)

    Jud. 16:14 he awoke (Geneva, NKJV) he awaked (KJV)

    Jud. 18:10 lack nothing (Geneva) no want (KJV) no lack (NKJV)

    Jud. 19:4 young woman’s (Geneva, NKJV) damsel’s (KJV)

    Jud. 19:21 fodder (Geneva, NKJV) provender (KJV)

    Jud. 19:24 virgin (Geneva, NKJV) maiden (KJV)

    Jud. 19:30 consult (Geneva) take advice (KJV) take counsel (NKJV)

    Jud. 20:13 wicked men (Geneva) men, the children of Belial (KJV) perverted men (NKJV)

    Jud. 20:23 evening (Geneva, NKJV) even (KJV)

    Jud. 21:10 most valiant (Geneva, NKJV) valiantest (KJV)
     
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    Judges 20:42
    they fled (1560 Geneva Bible)
     
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    The Geneva Bible is looking better and better all the time when compared with the KJV!
     
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    There are places where the KJV does improve upon the Geneva Bible.

    But as you indicate, there are also some places where the renderings of the Geneva Bible can properly be considered clearer, better, or more accurate than those in the KJV.
     
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    I just don't get the KJV rendering of Ruth 3:16 which I had posted:Who art thou,my daughter? Why would Naomi ask her daughter-in-law that kind of question? Even in the English of 400 plus years ago it just doesn't make any sense to me.
    Whereas the NIV is ultra-clear:How did it go,my daughter?
     
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    Judges

    14:16
    K -- rent a kid
    N -- torn a young goat
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    "Rent a kid" just sounds funny! But from the context one would be able to get it.

    "They fled" is more like it;not a mere "turned their backs." The NET has "retreated."
    I think that the NIV says it more completely than merely "a near kinsman."The NLTse has "family redeemer."
    The KJV rendering sounded so strange. But in the NET notes it meant the same thing as :"are you now his wife?"


    Again,the NIV rendering is a more complete translation. The NLTse has :"This publicly validated the transaction."
     

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