OK, firstly I've been lurking on here a while, and it has given me a greatly improved understanding of both doctrines. I appreciate your sincerity, and I commend that you all stand up for your convictions. So, my question to you all is this: Calvinism claims that God regenerates the souls of the elect, making it able to respond to the call, am I right? I can agree with this, if I understand it as I have written it correctly. My question is that though God regenerates the soul and makes it ABLE, does man still have free will at this point? Is he not simply free to walk away from Christ? And I don't believe in spiritual rape, i.e. Irresistable Grace, so please give me a more scriptural answer. And on limited atonement, Calvinism says Christ died for the elect only, correct? Well isn't the elect the church, which is the new Israel? God makes provisions in the OT for ANYONE to become an Israelite, so could not ANYONE join the church(the church universal)?