"KEEN EDDIE"

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  1. I Am Blessed 24

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    This is yet another example of how television programming has gotten out of control. I would encourage you to take the time to read the following email I received from Parents Television Council.

    With Esteem,
    Phil Sheldon

    YOUR IMMEDIATE HELP IS NEEDED TO DRIVE THIS GROSSLY INDECENT GARBAGE OFF TV AND OUT OF OUR HOMES...

    It is no exaggeration to tell you that your response to this e-mail can trigger the most important breakthrough ever in the fight against indecency on TV.

    If you agree that gross indecency and out-of-control violence on TV are endangering our children and grandchildren, you are strongly urged to read this message and take immediate action today.

    This is NOT an appeal for your financial support.

    But we do need your immediate response today to help drive grossly indecent garbage off TV and out of our homes once and for all.

    And we have an unprecedented opportunity to do exactly that because the Parents Television Council (PTC) has finally succeeded in getting indecency on TV moved to the very top of the political agenda in Washington, D.C.

    Almost two years ago, the PTC launched an all-out campaign to force the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) to do its job to enforce the federal law against broadcast indecency.

    And in the last several months we have been increasing the pressure on the agency by alerting lawmakers on Capitol Hill to the FCC's failure to do its job and enforce the law.

    Because our hard work has paid off, we stand today at a critical crossroads...

    There is a palpable determination building in families, churches, communities across America and on Capitol Hill to force the FCC to do something meaningful now.

    Evidence of this determination is everywhere...

    In just two short weeks more than 11,000 outraged citizens alerted by the PTC have responded to e-mails just like this and BOMBARDED the FCC with formal indecency complaints against the June 10th episode of Keen Eddie aired on Fox-TV.

    In a moment, you will learn more about the truly disgusting content of that Keen Eddie broadcast. But first, here are more details about recent events.

    At about the same time the June 10th episode of the Keen Eddie show appeared on TV, the U.S. Senate Commerce Committee that oversees the FCC voted to give the FCC more power to crack down on indecent material on broadcast television and radio. That historic vote increases fines from $27,500 (a mere slap on the wrist for multi-billion dollar media companies) to $250,000 for a single violation, and up to $2.5 million for continuing violations!

    Then, in response to our flood of demands for more aggressive FCC decency enforcement, one of the FCC Commissioners wrote to the PTC giving the agency a grade of "F" for failing to take strong action against indecency. A second Commissioner replied by saying, "I thank the Parents Television Council for your attention to this cause, and look forward to working with my colleagues at the Commission to improve the manner in which we implement and enforce our indecency rules."

    The PTC called on the Commission to enact five specific steps that the FCC must take to ensure that decency standards would be enforced.

    That's where Keen Eddie and you come in.

    It is absolutely imperative that we crank up the pressure.

    We want to DOUBLE OR TRIPLE the number of FCC complaints filed against the June 10th broadcast of the Keen Eddie show flooding the desks of the FCC Commissioners. If they don't enforce the law against this piece of filth, they'll never enforce it!

    In this e-mail, I'll tell you only that the TV show in question revolved around sexual contact between a prostitute and a horse!

    Can you believe this? This is one of the sickest things ever broadcast on a major TV network -- and it was aired at 9 o'clock in the evening when millions of youngsters were watching. In fact, Fox scheduled Keen Eddie to immediately follow American Juniors, a wholesome show tremendously popular with teens and preteens.

    And remember, this didn't come from some pay-per-view cable porn channel. It was on the Fox-TV broadcast network, which means it was available to children in virtually every household in America.

    But beyond our shared disbelief, shock, and anger - there is but one simple and obvious truth:

    In the absence of any credible threat from the FCC to enforce television decency laws, Hollywood television producers will continue to broadcast sewage like Keen Eddie into our homes.

    So here's what we need you to do –

    1. Please click HERE to file your FCC indecency complaint now.

    2. Immediately forward this message to your friends and family. Please do this much to spread the word and increase the heat on the FCC.

    Hopefully, many of your friends and family will also forward this e-mail, and your INDECENCY COMPLAINT to the FCC will be multiplied many, many times over!

    If we flood the FCC with INDECENCY COMPLAINTS, it cannot fail to trigger an FCC investigation leading to fines and possible loss of station licenses for the Fox-TV affiliates who aired this Keen Eddie show.

    But we need you and a lot of other decent folks to take immediate action. Please don't delay.

    With urgent thanks,
    The Parents Television Council
     
  2. dianetavegia

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    I've told some church prayer partners what aired on that show and they honestly didn't believe me! WHEN did we begin to allow porn on network t.v. and at 9:00 at night!

    I've signed and am sickened by what I read!
    Diane
     
  3. mozier

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    For those who didn't see the Keen Eddie show in question like I did, I will fill you in by Private Message if you want to know what happened. Yes, it was very tasteless and crude. HOWEVER, with that said, NOWHERE was a sex act shown on television (it didn't get that far). Believe me, there is much, MUCH worse things on television than this.

    You may still want to boycott Keen Eddie, if only for its lame sense of humor and jokes about an American in London (hey, what a funny concept!).


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  4. dianetavegia

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    I have a copy of the dialogue if anyone wants to read it. It's very filthy even if the acts are only mentioned and not actually performed. Christians should not be watching this type filth.


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    From the dialogue (I just followed the link Sue gave), it doesn't sound like any "acts" were performed even off camera. It is not implied that the woman actually went through with anything. In fact, the intended, but unperformed, "act" is only implied, not explicitly stated.

    Is it tasteless? Absolutely. Obscene? No. You probably get more specific information on Law & Order: SVU.
     
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    I don't think it's appropriate to file a complaint with the FCC unless one actually views the program in question.

    If, however, anyone has seen it, please let us know if the content is indeed of the nature described.
     
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    I disagree. If it comes over the air and into my home without my consent, I protest. My youngest is 8 1/2 and he knows which channels he can watch but think of all those homes where the parents don't care. :( I am quite careful what I watch!

    I protest emails that invite me to watch porn too. I send them to Obscenity Crimes.org (Thanks Gina) This isn't a case of it being on pay per view but on Fox which is easily viewed by children and adults.

    Diane

    Disclaimer: for those who will say I consent by having a t.v. in my home.... [​IMG]
     
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    Can you explain how that might happen? Either you're watching it or you aren't. By watching television at all you are consenting to advertisements for programs on the same or affiliated networks, too. Where's the "no consent" issue coming from?
     
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    Not by having it in your home, Diane, but by watching it, you consent to view the commercials, and for you to watch the program, you have to turn to the channel and view it. If your protest is that it exists at all, that might be a different story, but you have no personal standing in that instance.


    I'm sorry we posted at basically the same time (me my first post, you your edit). [​IMG]
     
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    YOUR IMMEDIATE HELP IS NEEDED TO DRIVE THIS GROSSLY INDECENT GARBAGE OFF TV AND OUT OF OUR HOMES...

    Thanks for this information Sue. I don't ever watch Fox because of the trashy news commentators ... I'll have to catch this one ... probably won't like but the web pages sounds like it might really be funny. You go girl! I sleep better at night knowing that there are people like you trying to censor all of the sexy stuff from the airways. Keep up the good work. Maybe we could have a book burning sometimes ... clean out the libraries as well ... or maybe some people will learn not to watch objectionalbe stuff. YOu know change channels!
     
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    I wish webmaster would add some more smilies cause I'm gonna stand you guys in the corner in time out! You just don't get it! :eek:

    Are we to endorse filth? Are we to excuse filth? I must be getting much older than I think I am because I am shocked at the young people who really don't care or want to protect children. [​IMG]

    No I do not watch it and I CAN complain. Is this not the United States of America? America? (Name THAT movie!)


    Even so, Come Quickly Lord Jesus
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    I don't watch these shows! I get the same alerts as Sue and others too!

    Diane [​IMG]
     
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    No, I'm not saying you do, Diane. I'm sorry if it came across that way. [​IMG] I was using a general "you."

    I still don't understand what you were talking about with "without my consent."

    Of course you don't have to support or endorse filth. No one does. I don't think it's been implied that you shouldn't say your piece. I do agree with John, though, that an FCC complaint is a big step to make when you haven't watched the show. Writing to the advertisers and network is a valid move, based on a show's existing at all, because you won't support a company that would produce or endorse such a program. But the FCC? As described by the PTC, the scene was not obscene. There is no legal complaint. Not to be confused with pressure on networks and advertisers - they're two different animals.

    Edited to add: do whatever you want, I'm not saying otherwise (as has been implied with the "America" comments, not about me in particular, but just generally about those who make comments contrary to the sentiment of the first post). Merely voicing my opinion on the matter after having read the description of the allegedly obscene scene, and what I see as a major disctinction between pressuring a network and filing an FCC complaint.

    How's that for a disclaimer? [​IMG]
     
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    Our TV has a remote and so does the Satelite. We just turn things to a different station or turn it off. Same effect. And you do not draw attention to it. More people will watch just to see if it is offensive, now that it has been told, than will to watch their regular programing, or playing with their children, or doing something with their family.

    Just turn it off. That simple.

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    No. But we need to know for ourselves that it's filth. There's not a single person in this thread so far that has seen it, and, as such, can't give peer testimony. Remember how so many folks were bagging on Bruce Almighty, yet no one saw it? I decided to see it myself, and I'm glad I did, because those that panned the movie were quite wrong. It would have been wrong for me to make a judgement about Bruce Almighty unless I saw it for myself. Otherwise, it's just another example of Chrstians enaging in gossip.


    You CAN, but is it APPROPRIATE as a Christian to complain to the FCC when you have not been able to make a determination? That would be like complaining to a parent because you heard from someone who heard from someone that her kid was a bad influence.
     
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    Kelly, the FCC is made up of, what, 4 men and one woman who make rules and choices for US. The FCC works for ME. They are paid with my tax money.

    Just a few years ago there were censors who would decide what could and could not be allowed on the airwaves. Now it's a free for all! If us old folk don't hold them accountable, who will? Certainly not the X Generation! I am ashamed of that age group and their complacency!

    To answer you: My consent would be if I subscribed to any movie channels.... which I don't. Fox comes in through an antenna and is a local channel. It's not something I purchase extra, like a StarZ or HBO type channel. If I chose to purchase those channels, then I should expect shows that are not appropriate for families. However, at 9 p.m. on an airway channel, I don't expect shows with men trying to get a prostitute (using kinder words here than on the show) to encourage a horse to provide fluids to sell to make ponies. That is beastality, if only implied, and it sickens me!

    Kelly there are millions of homes where the parents don't control the remote. Kids go to their rooms and watch whatever is on! Not just for my children, am I concerned, but for all others .......


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    How can I file a complaint about obscenity or indecency on the radio or television?
    You may file a written complaint and mail it to:

    FCC
    Enforcement Bureau, Investigations and Hearings Division
    445 12th Street, SW
    Washington, D.C. 20554

    The Commission asks complainants to provide the following information: (1) the date and time of the alleged broadcast; (2) the call sign of the station involved; and (3) information regarding the details of what was actually said (or depicted) during the alleged indecent or obscene broadcast. With respect to item (3), in making indecency determinations, context is key! The Commission staff must have sufficient information regarding what was actually said during the alleged broadcast, the meaning of what was said and the context in which it was stated. There is flexibility in how a complainant may provide this information. For example, the complainant may provide a significant excerpt of the program describing what was actually said (or depicted) or a full or partial tape or transcript of the material. In whatever form, the complainant provides the information, it must be sufficiently detailed such that the Commission can determine the words and language actually used during the broadcast and the context of those words or language.

    It is a violation of federal law to broadcast obscene programming at any time. It is also a violation of federal law to broadcast indecent programming during certain hours. Congress has given the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) the responsibility for administratively enforcing the law that governs these types of broadcasts. The Commission may revoke a station license, impose a monetary forfeiture, or issue a warning, for the broadcast of obscene or indecent material.

    Obscene Broadcasts Are Prohibited at All Times
    Obscene speech is not protected by the First Amendment and cannot be broadcast at any time. To be obscene, material must meet a three-prong test:

    An average person, applying contemporary community standards, must find that the material, as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest;

    The material must depict or describe, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct specifically defined by applicable law; and

    The material, taken as a whole, must lack serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.

    The FCC has defined broadcast indecency as "language or material that, in context, depicts or describes, in terms patently offensive as measured by contemporary community broadcast standards for the broadcast medium, sexual or excretory organs or activities." Indecent programming contains patently offensive sexual or excretory references that do not rise to the level of obscenity.



    Contact your FCC Here
     
  17. I Am Blessed 24

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    Sherrie: It isn't that simple when there are thousands of unattended kids sitting at home glued to the TV set watching this filth. Sure they CAN turn it off...you think they're gonna?

    NOT! :mad:
     
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    I think we have a right to redress of grievances per the U.S. Constitution(Amendment 1). If the federal government is going to exercise regulatory oversight on the public airwaves, then we have a right to complain to the FCC regardless of whether we watch every item that we may regard as against the FCC's rules. If we trust another person or an organization's judgment on a particular incident, then that is good enough. It is then up to the FCC to determine if the complaint is valid or not.
     
  19. Sherrie

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    If you have not seen it, and was not even aware of it, and it wasn't being played on your TV, why would you do that? Isn't that a slight deceitful!?!

    Well isn't that the pot calling the skillet black! HA!

    Sherrie
     
  20. KenH

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    By all means, address your complaint to the FCC. But you have to realize that not every Christian is not going to agree on how best to handle this situation. Maybe there needs to be a new forum for activism such as this where information is provided but it is not discussed in that forum, as it seems that what begins as information becomes a shouting match on all sides in this forum.
     

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