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For those who say that someone should be forced to do something against their conscience such as issuing the paperwork for SSM...

Would you of the same opinion if say a government application was needed in order to obtain an abortion?

Would you also say that all government workers should just do their job and issue the abortion permits or quit their job?

 

I would do everything asked of me up to the point where I would be required to sin or to affirm sin.

At that point, I would politely say "No" and explain why.

 

You said "If you believe it is unchristian to do a certain task required by your position". That's a reference to a hypothetical situation.

I merely responded to your premise.

Better than having my head up my fourth point of contact, like you.

And I already quoted your post, showing that you're the one who referred to a hypothetical situation.

Actually, I didn't say that. I pointed out that you brought up a hypothetical situation and then demonstrated it by quoting your post.

And you have repeatedly lied about what I said.

Actually, you're the one who brought up a hypothetical situation.

Yeah, congratulations on being able to get married now.

And in case anybody missed it, here's his own words again:

Note the words "If you believe..." and "a certain task". Hypothetical.

 

Once again, Princess:

"If you believe..." + "...a certain task" = hypothetical.

 

JDF

Forget marriage licenses, you need to figure out how to have a conversation with a brother in Christ without turning into a mean spirited lunatic every time a conversation doesn't go your way. The Bible isn't a menu you know. It's kind of hilarious to listen to your passionate views on taking a stand against marriage licenses while you hurl insults at fellow believers.

 

Waste of time, what do you think about his repeated lying and name calling?

What do you think about his "we have to take a stand for Christ" pitch, while lying about me and calling me names?

Sounds like a double standard to me, Waste Of Time.

 

That you provoked. He made every effort to remain cordial with you but you responded as you usually do...childishly.

 

And you be sure to keep up that hypocrisy. You're a great cautionary tale.

 

How did I provoke his lying?

 

I notice you chose not to begin at the beginning?

Why begin with my first response without being honest enough to begin with the post I was responding to?

Also, I notice that you quoted one of my posts where I responded to your name calling in kind, but then chose not to quote your posts in which you engaged in name calling.

Funny how you only quote the posts you think you can use to make me look bad, but you don't post any of your own name calling or lies about me.

But I guess as many times as you've lied about me in this thread, one more shouldn't hurt, right?

And then, I thought you said you were going to bow out. I guess that's yet another lie.

 

Yes, you did. And that was very big of you.

The problem is that, not only did you not stop, you actually got worse.

And, by the way, isn't it funny that when you apologized, I accepted it, but when I retracted a statement I made because it was over the line, you continue to use it as a cudgel against me?

 

For those who are interested, here are a few tiny little details Jon chose to leave out of his recollection of our conversation:

Here, we see the reference to the hypothetical situation he insists he never brought up.

Here, we see the first time he attributes an argument to me that I never made.

Once again, attributing an argument to me that I never made.

Not only dishonestly attributing an argument to me that I never made, but also the first example of his name calling.

Dishonestly attributing statements to me that I never made. I challenged him to quote where I said anything like this. He could not.

Yet again, dishonestly attributing an argument to me that I never made, even after I explained to him several times that I never said any such thing.

Ad hom.

Notice that he calls me "cowardly and foolish" for responding to his hypothetical premise.

Ad hom.

Again, here he is insulting me for responding to his hypothetical premise.

 

I no longer accept your apology. It's clear that you were not sincere.

 

He actually apologized, you didn't. You tried to hide it real fast because you probably realized it went too far. Nowhere at all did he come close to matching that level of disrespect but he still took the higher road and was the better man in the end. You are rabidly attempting damage control.

Whatever points you think you made in this thread might as well end up in the garbage as soon as you started using pedophilia as an insult. You talk Christian conviction out of one side of your mouth but then spew hateful and disgusting garbage out the other in the same thread. I don't always agree with JonC but at least he has this little thing called accountability.