Kerry's Support for Partial-Birth Abortion

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  1. leesw

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    http://www.lifenews.com/nat844.html

    Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- In a revelation that is causing a huge stir among pro-life advocates, three late-term abortion practitioners have made thousands of dollars of donations to the campaign of Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry.

    For those involved in the debate about partial-birth abortion, Martin Haskell's name is familiar. He is credited with inventing the grisly procedure that has been banned in dozens of states and by Congress.

    Haskell, and infamous late-term abortion practitioners Warren Hearn of Colorado and George Tiller of Kansas, have donated a total of $7,000 to the Kerry campaign.

    While that's not a huge sum compared with the millions top pro-abortion organizations are spending to oust President Bush, pro-life advocates say it's noteworthy that notorious men who perform abortions very late in pregnancy are willing to finance Kerry's campaign for president.

    "[T]hese contributions are worth scrutinizing because of what they reveal about John Kerry," writes National Right to Life legislative director Douglas Johnson in the Weekly Standard.

    Johnson said the "Kerry campaign apparently readily accepted the contributions--money that might very well have originated in fees charged to perform partial-birth abortions or other late abortions."

    According to Johnson, the donations point to Senator Kerry's extreme view on abortion -- a point validated by Kerry's six votes against a partial-birth abortion ban over the last several years.

    The donations also reflect the abortion practitioner's confidence in Kerry's statements that he will only appoint judges to the Supreme Court that are willing to uphold Roe v. Wade and, apparently, partial-birth abortions.

    "Most likely, these abortionists are quite aware that Kerry has promised to nominate only Supreme Court justices who share his real position on abortion policy--which would guarantee that partial-birth abortions and other late abortions, and of course earlier abortions, would remain almost entirely shielded from scrutiny or restriction by elected lawmakers for the foreseeable future," Johnson explained.

    Kerry's campaign did not respond to a request for comment.

    According to records Johnson obtained, Martin Haskell wrote a check to the Kerry campaign for $2,000 on June 30, 2004.

    In 1994, Haskell wrote a seminal paper presenting the new partial-birth abortion method. He has since filed a lawsuit seeking to overturn an Ohio law implementing the FDA's safety recommendations for using the dangerous RU 486 abortion drug.

    George Tiller, who operates a late-term abortion business in Wichita, Kansas, sent the Kerry campaign a contribution of $1,000, recorded March 17, 2004.

    Tiller has come under fire recently for botching women's abortions and three staff members resigned earlier this year.

    Between September 15, 2003, and June 25, 2004, Colorado late-term abortionist Warren Hearn gave Kerry the maximum allowed amount of $4,000.

    Hearn says he performs abortions as late as the eight month of pregnancy, shortly before birth.
     
  2. KenH

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    Any abortion is gruesome. Abortion should be outlawed. Period.
     
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    Amen!
     
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    Yes, but who is proposing to do so?
     
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    Bush made a start by banning partial-birth abortion, but has a long, uphill battle. Obviously I'd like for him to snap his fingers and make it all go away, but that is impossible to do. It will take small steps with the liberal state of our government.

    Maybe when I am elected President (seriously, I want to do that after serving as Senator or Governor for Tennessee) everything will be in place for abortion to be outlawed completely.

    Lee
     
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    Bush didn't ban partial-birth abortion. The courts have tied it up, andhe has instructed the justice department not to oppose them.

    Big surprise.

    How come we put up with lame excuses, when 3800 babies are being killed each day?
     
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    At least Bush doesn't support Abortion as John Kerry does. Did you see him talking about a 'woman's right to choose' in the 2nd debate?

    Clearly, the Bush administration are taking steps to force fewer abortions, while Kerry and the Dems are hard at it trying to increase the availability and frequency of abortion. The woman asked Kerry what he would say to the person that says they don't want their tax dollars used for it... his answer was the equivalent to 'tough luck'. Bush said unequivocally that he would NOT use tax dollars for abortions.
     
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    Then why has he supported increases in federal funding of Planned Parenthood?
     
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    Then why has he supported increases in federal funding of Planned Parenthood? </font>[/QUOTE]Has he actually supported increased funding. I mean Bush specically.

    What is your source for this?
     
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    Thanks to G.W. Bush’s leadership, companies such as Planned Parenthood, the largest baby-killing conglomerate in the world, will get taxpayer funding. Planned Parenthood was responsible for the deaths of 227,385 Americans in 2002 alone. Planned Parenthood's 2002-2003 Annual Report shows that 33 % of its income came from federal government grants and contracts totaling $254.4 million in the fiscal year ending in June 2003, thanks to Medicaid disbursements and President Bush’s Title X of the Public Health Service Act in 2001. Under Bush, this baby-killing organization has received more tax-funds than under Clinton! Thanks in large part due to government handouts under President Bush, Planned Parenthood raked in a hefty $36.6 million profit in its last fiscal year.

    - www.intellectualconservative.com/article3114.html
     
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    There is not a more wicked organization in the nation than Planed Parenthood. Our church pickets every Saturday at one of their death houses here in Houston.
     
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    Sure, but maybe he wasn't telling the truth:

    "...The Title X funding level for FY 2001, the last Clinton-influenced budget, was a total of $254 million, of which over $58 million went to planned parenthood

    In FY 2002, George W. Bush's first full budget year, the Title X birth/population control and Planned Parenthood funding authorization increased over 11,000,000, to $265 million (HR 3061 for FY 2002, signed by President Bush on 1/10/2002)

    In FY 2004, George W. Bush's most recently completed full budget year, the Title X birth/population control and Planned Parenthood funding authorization increased even more to $280 million, over $26,000,000 ($26 million) more than Bill Clinton's last budget year! (HR 2673 for FY 2004, signed by President Bush on 1/23/2004)
    ..."


    Lots more HERE
     
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    I'm not seeing anything offical that states Bush supports abortion.

    This budget thing is just a smokescreen Kerry supporters hope he can hide behind. These funds are there because the liberal democrats insist they be there.

    Kerry clearly said during the debate that he supported partial birth abortion. Pure evil. He is culpable in this and not only him but those that support him. Knowing how he would handle this pure evil and still supporting him makes them at least a little culpable themselves. Shame on him and all that support him.
     
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    I'm not a Kerry supporter. If he were president, he would probably not increase abortion funding as much as Bush has, but he'd likely increase it some.

    I won't vote for either of them, because if you vote for someone you bear responsibility for what they do or fail to do.

    I don't want to be responsible for increasing abortion funding, or for bankrupting our nation.
     
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    "...pro-lifers line up behind the Republican candidate. President Bush's budget request for the domestic population control program, Title X of the Public Health Service Act, is $278,300,000 for fiscal year 2005. (Ryan Report www.all.org/stopp). His father, then Congressman GH Bush sponsored this wicked legislation. President Bush is requesting $425 million for the USAID population control programs and an additional $25 million set aside to presumably be available for the U.N. Population Fund (UNFPA) if it becomes eligible for U.S. support (ibid)."


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    If Bush signs the budget each year...which he does...then he's supporting using tax dollars to pay for abortion. He does have the right to veto, if he has the courage of his convictions.

    However, that is very rare in any politician.
     
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    It might depend on what the funds are earmarked for. Of course no matter how they're earmarked it would free up other money. The point is why are the funds available in the first place. Thats because abortion supporters insist they be there. I believe left up to just Republicans they wouldn't be.

    Anyway John Kerry is a supporter of what is pure evil in partial birth abortion.
     
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    It is left up to the Republicans. They control the Senate, House, and White House. They have used their power to increase abortion funding. Do your political preferences take precedence over the abortion of millions?
     
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    Thats pretty slick. They don't have enough of a majority and you know it. You have to have that to be able to overcome the filibusters and courts. People like Kerry will appoint enough liberal judges to make sure nothing can be accomplished along the lines of stopping abortion. It will take nothing less than a constitutional amendment.

    Kerry voted against the ban on partial birth abortion. He put himself on record.

    If you think Peroutka can do anything about it you're completely wrong. He will have the same problem. Where would his support come from? Certainly not democrats. Yep, he would have to get his support from basically Republicans.

    Given the proper majority the Republicans would take care of the problem.
     
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    Sorry, but in my experience as a lobbyist, not that many Republicans have a desire to outlaw abortion. Most believe in no abortion except in the cases of rape, incest, or endangerment to the mother's life. (one used to joke,..."no abortion except in the case of rape, incest, endangerment to the mother's life, or my mistress"...yes, that was a Republican leader).

    Fewer Democrats than Republicans want to outlaw abortion, but a complete outlaw, legislatively, will not happen during our lifetime in this country whether Republicans or Democrats are in a super majority.
     

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