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Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Crabtownboy, Dec 5, 2014.

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  1. poncho

    poncho Well-Known Member

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    That's not the point. He used a banned choke hold. He must have known it was banned and he must have known the reason it was banned and he still used it. That's manslaughter is it not? He should be held accountable. If he did not know it was a banned choke hold then he wasn't properly trained in his dept's policy and his superiors should be held accountable.

    This ruling is just giving the race baiters more ammunition. Someone needs to be held accountable.
     
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    Insulting me doesn't change the reality that some of those mired in white privilege refuse to see.

    The inability of white people to hear black reality—to not even know that there is one and that it differs from our own—makes it nearly impossible to move forward.

    But how can we expect black folks to trust law enforcement or to view it in the same heroic and selfless terms that so many of us apparently do when that very law, from one side of the country to the other has been a weapon used against black bodies, not a shield intended to defend them, and for a very long time?

    Time to wake up a recognize that justice isn't as blind as yall would like for her to be.
     
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    That's an administrative matter, not a legal one.
     
  4. poncho

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    Are you daft? I never said anything about him being or not being a racist.

    I said you keep feeding him.

    Let me try to explain this. Zaac as everyone knows is a troll. His posts are designed to get people like you into long stupid arguments that go nowhere and accomplish nothing.

    I very rarely reply to Zaac's posts so you don't see me and Zaac going back and forth acting like a couple of little girls in a pig tail pulling contest.

    Leave him be. He'll go away. And even if he doesn't there's no reason you have to look as foolish as he does by getting into with him. In other words don't feed the troll.

    Capsice?
     
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    Does that mean there's no need for accountability?
     
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    Did he die from the "chock hold"? Or did bad health play a major role?
     
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    Not at all. I'm on record recommending discipline of the officer by NYPD up to and including termination.
     
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    And in this I agree with you. He DID choose to use the chokehold which he knew he shouldn't and as a result of using that along with other factors that the victim had, the man died. I have said all along I think the grand jury got this wrong and the cop should be charged with second degree manslaughter.
     
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    Agreed BUT if indeed the guy died from the choke hold I think he SHOULD get involuntary man slaughter. BTW Shallow Al Sharpton should be jail for flaming the riots too!
     
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    With 30 priors one would think the police would have a pretty good idea about who the guy was and what the condition of his health was.
     
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    Sounds like an Obamacare issue.
     
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    You're reaching.

    This time, it's kinda silly.
     
  15. poncho

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    Yeah really why would the NYPD remember a guy they arrested 30 times? Doh!
     
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    And why would they know anything about his health issues?

    You're still reaching.
     
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    Arrested 30 times - sounds like the guy had no respect for the law.
     
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    Law enforcement disclosure powers

    Q: Can the police get my medical information without a warrant?
    A: Yes. The HIPAA rules provide a wide variety of circumstances under which medical information can be disclosed for law enforcement-related purposes without explicitly requiring a warrant.[iii] These circumstances include (1) law enforcement requests for information to identify or locate a suspect, fugitive, witness, or missing person (2) instances where there has been a crime committed on the premises of the covered entity, and (3) in a medical emergency in connection with a crime.[iv]

    In other words, law enforcement is entitled to your records simply by asserting that you are a suspect or the victim of a crime.

    https://www.aclu.org/technology-and-liberty/faq-government-access-medical-records

    Why wouldn't the cops know about his health issues? If they didn't they wouldn't be very good investigators.

    Hmmm, come to think of it you may have a point.
     
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    You're still reaching.

    Why would they be interested in investigating his health?

    Give it up , Poncho. It's a non starter.
     
  20. poncho

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    According to you. And who are you again? The wise and great Carpro almighty?

    It must be hard for you to find a hat that fits over that ego. :rolleyes:
     
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