Latent Marxism II

Sometimes to promote it is necessary to provide.

 

So then tell us, in detail, where we are mistaken.

 

Have you ever read any of Marx or Engel's writings?

 

Tell us, in detail, where and WHY we are mistaken. Why is Obama NOT a Marxist ?

 

For starters, Marx was against religion, while Obama clearly is not.

 

Communism is for the collectivization of all farms and industry. Obama is not.

 

Oh no, I've stumbled across yet another of those threads where apparently Obama is a closet member of the Socialist Workers Party (it's 'fraternal' British counterpart is here), and we all have to run round gerbilling for over ten pages about it like we have tin foil hats on until some kind Mod puts the thread out of its misery.

 

Oh. So him nationalizing two of the three big auto makers, and nationalizing several major banks never really happened. Good thing. PHEW !!!!!!

 

No. He just makes fun of those who cling to religion.

 

Prove it ... what is your source ... probably just your infallible opinion again. :laugh:

 

Yeah. He never said that, did he ?

More blatant dishonesty.

 

Yes, it is very dishonest of you to make such statements and never back them up. Show me where he said that.

 

okay, here you go
"Cling to their guns and their religion"

I know you'll just defend him again, but you asked.

 

To ask me to do that is either highly ignorant of current events, or highly dishonest with them. I will not debate with either position.

 

In other words, you have nothing to back up your statement other than that is what you believe. If you have nothing to back up your outlandish statements why make them?

You won't debate because you can't ... nothing but an extreme, unprovable opinion.

Grow up fellow. You are not a sophomore.

 

Although Tom provided the link you are right it is more dishonesty from CTB. But nothing unusual.

 

I don't need to back it up. It is common knowledge. Why don't you just admit you know exactly what I am talking about ? Why do you need to hide from the truth ? Is the truth about Obama so nerve-rattling contrary to your ideals about him that you need to make me the issue ?

 

If it were such common knowledge you could back it up. Since you can't it can only be assumed you were just spouting off hot air. Oh, send some hot air here, we could use it to melt of this snow. :laugh:

You make yourself an issue by making outlandish statements that you cannot back up. Cite your sources for such statements or leave them unsaid. One liners may be cute, but they are not smart unless you can back them up.

Now either apologize for making such an insulting statement or back it up!

 

Well, the info has been posted, by someone else, yet you still talk about me. Proof that you cannot debate in a mature manner. Why anyone even bothers is the real issue.

Apologize ? Why don't you admit to your dishonesty.

 

Crabby, google this sentence...

"And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

Obama said it at a fundraiser. It's all over the internet. You can't miss it.



Curtis, be easy on Crabby.

You will be older someday and you won't like it when people argue with you that you over things that you can't remember any more just because your memory is going bad. :laugh: