Latest NASCAR Conspiracy

Discussion in 'Sports' started by swaimj, Aug 23, 2004.

  1. swaimj

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    I have not read this conspiracy anywhere. It comes solely from my own (cynical) mind.

    So, Jimmie Johnson had a whopping big lead in the NASCAR point standings until this past weekend's race at Michigan gave him his third DNF in a row. How likely was that?

    I think NASCAR made him drop out of those races to tighten the points race and reduce the spread from 1-12 in the points race to less than 400. That way they can get some additional drivers in the fanal 10 race chase for the championship. And that way they can get 2-3 Dodges in the chase. Dodge is in danger of not having a single driver qualify.

    As of now, there is still an over 400 point spread from positions 1-8, but a crash at Bristol this weekend for Jeff Gordon would tighten things up just as NASCAR needs. Or maybe he'll blow an engine, after all, his teammate, Jimmie Johnson, has blown the last three weeks in a row. The curse might hit Gordon this week.

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  2. KenH

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    Interesting theory. [​IMG]

    To get anyone other than the top ten into the 10 race runoff will pretty much require that Gordon, Johnson, Earnhardt Jr., and Stewart all have some bad races simultaneously to get anyone in under the 400 point level who is not in the top ten.
     
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    If they make a change to the program next year, I think they'll say anyone within 400 points of 10th place will get into the race. They are leaving too many good drivers out to leave it like it is.
     
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    If they would going to do that just include everyone from 1st - 43rd and start over with ten races left. [​IMG]
     
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    I have to admit the thought crossed my mind as I noticed the point spread between 1st and 10th place drop under 500 points after this past race. But like Ken said, bad things would have to happen to 4 or 5 of the top drivers for it to happen and I don't think the drivers are willing to lose on purpose (but I admit 3 DNF's is pretty suspicious). Maybe NASCAR will find several top cars with "illegal setups" during inspection next race so they can take away 50 or 100 points each. [​IMG] Jeff Gordon has "mathematically clinched" a position in the Chase, so I guess he can take it easy the next few races.

    Dodge has one driver in at this point (Kasey Kahne in 10th) and Jeremy Mayfield, Ryan Newman, and Jamie McMurray are all within 70 points of 10th place. Dodge has a good chance of getting at least one driver in assuming they can keep Mark Martin and Dale Jarrett out of that spot.
     
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    Yeah, interesting thought. I would suspect any team asked to "dive" would raise a fuss - and someone would leak the news.

    The 10 race "non-playoff" setup has sure changed raciing. For those securely in the top 10, and those securely out of the top ten, competition has become less important.

    Jeff Gordon has admitted to actually testing some things during races, because loosing now is not a critical to the championship contest. I imagine that's what's happening with Jimmie Johnson as well. Now's the time to experiment - very little to lose.

    Just the thought that this may happen goes to show how much credibility NASCAR has lost. The constant tinkering and the sponsorship contests between NASCAR and the race teams is getting old.
     
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    After the Bristol race, it seems that my conspiracy theory is holding up. Jeff Gordon led the points going into the race. Did he win? NO WAY!!! He was BLACK-FLAGGED by NASCAR!!! Has that EVER happened before? In his career, has the golden boy EVER been BLACK-FLAGGED? Now he has been because NO ONE can stand in the way of getting extra drivers into the CHASE. They NEED those Dodge drivers in the mix!!! Now only 508 points separate the leader from position 15. With two races to go can they reduce the lead of Gordon and Johnson by 108 points? The lead has shrunk ASTRONOMICALLY in the last four races. I think it will be done.

    YIKES!!! I'm starting to believe my own lunacy!!! :eek:
     
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    That was a pretty weird black flag. Did they ever say if Gordon should have been allowed to be waved past those drivers before the restart? He sure thought he didn't do anything wrong. I am starting to believe you about the whole NASCAR conspiracy theory. :eek:

    If Jimmie, Jeff, Dale Jr., and Tony Stewart all have problems next week... [​IMG]
     
  9. EaglewingIS4031

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    I think you have something there! Money talks and the Mopar guys have added alot since re-entering the sport. You should email the guys at ESPN sports center or something. If this is true it would be worse than the 1909 Black Sox or any other MLB scandal.

    One thing is for sure, the new point system has almost eliminated "silly season." And personaly this time of year I usually get geared up for college football, But this year I'm still interested in NASCAR.

    Eaglewing

    P.S. I think there is a NASCAR conspiracy against Ryan and Rusty. The Penske guys can't seem to get a break. Of course not counting the Bristol race running out of gas was the #2 team's fault, and the #12 got 2nd.
     
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    The last conspiracy in Nascar was [Edited at Moderator's Discretion].

    [ August 31, 2004, 09:44 AM: Message edited by: TomVols ]
     
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    :( Ouch [​IMG] It's obvious that you have more than 8 teeth because that biting remark hurts.
     
  12. KenH

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    :confused:

    Moderator's note: this was a reply to a remark that had to be edited.

    We now return you to your programming already in progress. [​IMG]

    [ August 31, 2004, 09:45 AM: Message edited by: TomVols ]
     
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    Come on guys. Take a joke. I always assumed it was a compliment to say Nascar fan had 7 teeth.
     
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    Considering how many NASCAR races are now in the north, midwest, and west, I don't understand why Daniel David would want to insult the folks living in those regions of these United States. :confused: I am already well aware of his hatred toward all things Southern.
     
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    Ken, you don't have to lie about people. Wait, maybe you do.
     
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    Who are you Don Rikels? Since when is direct insults and offending people a joke!

    In the course of human events it stands to reason that if some one invented a horseless carriage, then some one else would figure out how to race it.

    NASCAR is the most competitive, most exiting form of auto racing in the world. In the US it's popularity far outranks any other form of Auto racing. It has gained a sizable following in Europe, South and Central America and Japan. Nascar races have even been held in Japan. It is the fastest growing spectator sport in the USA.
    Races are held in all parts of the country. Prize money and corporate sponsorship also outranks the other forms of Autoracing.

    If you don't like it fine, leave us alone. I personaly don't like hockey, but I won't get on this board (or any where else) and start making fun of, and insulting the Northerners & Canadians that do.
     
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    Car racing exciting? How hilarious.

    Here they come everyone, fresh off a left turn, there they go on another left turn.

    Can you say - easily amused?
     
  18. KenH

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    Go away, Daniel David, just go away.
     
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    Now the California race has passed and my conspiracy theory is holding up quite well...thank you very much!!! Bad finishes by Earnhardt Jr and Gordon further lessened the distance between 1st and 400 points back. A bad finish by Johnson at Richmond will put several drivers beyond the top ten into the "chase". And to think that Johnson had a 300+ lead just a few weeks ago. The points system that was in place last year was first put in place in 1975. In all that time, I never witnessed a complete implosion by the top three in points such as we have seen this year. Amazing!!!...or is it???

    This week at Richmond, watch for Johnson to be plagued again by the mysterious Hendrick engine problem. Then the week following the problem will disappear.
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    Being a Hendrick Racing fan I hope it is all going to end after the final segment begins. All of these blown engines are destroying me in the ESPN Stock Car Challenge. [​IMG]

    If Jimmy and Jeff both have similar problems this weekend, it could allow 15 drivers into the Chase for the Nextel Cup. If it doesn't happen, there are probably going to be 5 drivers really upset that they were so close but didn't quite make it in. It could come down to 5 or 10 points keeping someone out of it.
     

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