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Laura Bush Heckled at Dome of the Rock

Discussion in '2005 Archive' started by BillyMac, May 23, 2005.

  1. BobRyan

    BobRyan Well-Known Member

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    Daniel gave the customary blessing to the King of Babylon and god of their pagan religion when he said "Oh King - Live forever" Daniel 6:21.

    Taking off one's shoes as you enter the home of an oriental family is customary even today. (some american families have that custom as well)

    #1. I can hardly justify a verbal attack on our leaders because they show customary respect for others.

    #2. I also don't think it is "likely" that the First Lady went to the explosive land of Palestine thinking that "it will be all roses and candy when I get there". I am surprised that anybody in the US would not get this point. Particularly when part of her stated mission was to help ease anti-US sentiment in that region.

    #3. Though many might argue that you have to be pretty stupid to be Islamic - I doubt that very many people believe that all Muslims 'think exactly as the most extreme among them'. The more they see gross-stupidity on the part of their extreme factions the more likely they are to experience a "rift" between the factions.

    Remember that when Muslims aren't killing others - they are busy killing and hating each other.

    One reason that "error" is such a bad thing - is that it leads people to live miserable hate-filled lives.

    In Christ,

    Bob
     
  2. Daisy

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    Actually, the vast majority of Moslems are busy working, cooking, cleaning house, looking after the kids and grandkids, visiting friends and relatives, caring for the sick, shopping at the market, gardenning, watching TV, surfing on the internet, etc - leading "normal" lives.
     
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    'Arafa, wrote an article rejecting the established Islamic doctrine that the Prophet Muhammad's celebrated "Night Journey" (Koran 17:1) took him from Mecca to Jerusalem.
    This is a completely new interpretation. There have been 2 traditional interpretations. 1 is that the farthest mosque is the one in Jerusalem, the other is that the whole journey was a dream.
    The government of Egypt seems to have cooked up this third new interpretation as part of the peace process. Good for them. [​IMG]
     
  4. Terry_Herrington

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    Even though I don't like the Bush administration, I don't really see anything wrong with what Mrs. Bush did by being courteous to her guests in the Middle East.

    Surely, there are more important things to get worked up over than this non-issue.
     
  5. BillyMac

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    I'll bet Laura Bush doesn't think it's a non-issue. Afterall, she's the one who got the fingers waved at her in a negative way from the Muslim women in the mosque. And she was the guest, Terry, not the other way around. They are the ones who should have been courteous to her. Afterall, they had to give permission for her to be there. I just don't agree that she should have been there at all. It doesn't set well with me from a Christian perspective. It just looks like she is playing up to them and that is just not cool at all. I tend to be more understanding of the Jews heckling her especially since they had to know she had either come from or was going to the pandering of the Muslims. As a Christian with Judeo-Christian ties to Judaism, I am protesting her (heckling her) from where I sit behind this keyboard.
     
  6. KenH

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    No, He isn't. He is reigning right now.

    Let it be noted that it is you, LadyEagle, who has inserted your dispensationalism into this thread.

    And all mountains belong to God. Period.
     
  7. KenH

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    Jesus will never set foot again on this physical earth as it currently exists.
     
  8. LadyEagle

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    Zech.14
    [1] Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
    [2] For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
    [3] Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
    [4] And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

    [5] And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
    [6] And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:
    [7] But it shall be one day which shall be known to the LORD, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.
    [8] And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.
    [9] And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.
    [10] All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin's gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king's winepresses.
    [11] And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.
    [12] And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
    [13] And it shall come to pass in that day, that a great tumult from the LORD shall be among them; and they shall lay hold every one on the hand of his neighbour, and his hand shall rise up against the hand of his neighbour.
    [14] And Judah also shall fight at Jerusalem; and the wealth of all the heathen round about shall be gathered together, gold, and silver, and apparel, in great abundance.
    [15] And so shall be the plague of the horse, of the mule, of the camel, and of the ass, and of all the beasts that shall be in these tents, as this plague.
    [16] And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
    [17] And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
    [18] And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
    [19] This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
    [20] In that day shall there be upon the bells of the horses, HOLINESS UNTO THE LORD; and the pots in the LORD's house shall be like the bowl's before the altar.
    [21] Yea, every pot in Jerusalem and in Judah shall be holiness unto the LORD of hosts: and all they that sacrifice shall come and take of them, and seethe therein: and in that day there shall be no more the Canaanite in the house of the LORD of hosts.
     
  9. KenH

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    Symbolic language, LE, symbolic language.
     
  10. Terry_Herrington

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    I'm curious. Could you explain what this symbolic language is saying in today's terms.

    I ask this seriously, not as a pretest for an argument.

    I have a very good friend who considers himself a partial preterits. In talking to him I have never understood his explanation. [​IMG]
     
  11. KenH

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    Wow, Ken. "[9] And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one."

    When did it happen that the Lord became king over all the earth and everyone knew the one true LORD? 70 AD?

    Maybe it's time to move this topic over to where it can be further discussed without the three page limit, so therefore, it's being moved. [​IMG]

    LE,
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  14. BillyMac

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    There may be those who happen along here who do not know, as I did not know, what it is to be a "preterist". Thus, this LINK
     
  15. LadyEagle

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    Thanks, Billy! [​IMG]
     
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