Learning Hebrew a little earlier than expected...help!

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  1. Havensdad

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    O.k.

    I was registered to take my second Greek class at New Orleans Baptist Seminary this summer, but due to a lack of registrants, it was canceled. Because of the time constraints in language, I pretty much had to transfer to an Intro to Hebrew course, so as not to lose the semester.

    I am looking for resources to aid memorization. Primarily vocabulary words on audio for memorization; everything I have found either uses the old seminary pronunciation (which is just stupid to learn; why not go ahead and learn the language, so as to actually USE it for something other than Bible study...) such as the audio for Basics of Biblical Hebrew, or it is made up of a bunch of modern words (like "airport" "bus" etc...not really words you'll run into in the Old Testament).

    It just kills me; there is TONS of stuff for Greek...even free stuff. Hildebrandt has audio vocab lessons on Mp3 down to something like every word occurring ten times or more in the NT. But I cannot find ONE for (Biblical) Hebrew.

    Any help would be appreciated! I already have Hebrew Tutor. But nothing beats the audio vocab for learning on the go.
     
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    What text are they using?

    Rob
     
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    #1 There are still hundreds of people groups which do not have the scriptures in their own language. You have to know the original languages, if you wish to make a translation for them (at least, an accurate one).

    #2 The meaning is conveyed more exactly in the original languages, and hence, they give you a better understanding of the text. There are Greek and Hebrew words and concepts which are not even translatable into English; we simply do not have the words. We try to approximate something, but it often leads to confusion, rather than clarity. Take for example, if the Greeks had a particular breed of dog, called, oh I don't know, "Apello" or something. If this breed of dog was not here, we would not have a name for it. So we would just translate it "dog."

    The problem is, that it would then take on whatever meaning you assign it. Perhaps the Spanish person would think of a Chihuahua. The English would think of a little terrier. The Australian would think of a dingo. But for the purpose of our example, the "Apello" is a very large dog, known for its ability to help the Romans catch elephants and tigers for the Coliseum games. Would any of those breeds of dog convey that message in a text? No. And so confusion arises, which is cleared up by going to the original languages.

    This is so clear; I do not see how anyone with a brain could argue with it. Now, I would ask that you take your KJVO sillyness somewhere else.

    Thanks.:thumbs:
     
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    Hunter's Inductive study for Beginners.
     
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    That's odd, you'd think they'd have plenty. Have checked with the SWBTS extension in Houston? You should be able to the take the class there and transfer if needed.

    Do you have iTunes? If you do (if you don't go get it its free) go to iTunesU and Concordia Seminary and their free online Hebrew video lectures. It'll give you rewindable, fairly simple presentation on the essentials. (They have Greek too) Also, I'd check into getting another Hebrew Grammar to supplement, like Practico and VanPelt. It has a CD-ROM that I've heard is helpful.

    There should be some iPod stuff out there. I dunno though, this stuff wasn't available when I did my Hebrew.
     
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    A pastor, or anyone for that matter, is far better equipped to get into the bones of the translation with the original languages than without. Modern translations are faithful and good but, mostly due to the nature of English being a non-inflected language and Greek/Hebrew being an inflected language, they often miss nuance. Also because of the nature of most translations being done by committee the finer points of the original wording can be lost when it encounters a theological decision.

    Our modern translations are fine, but for the pastor/teacher who is going to be feeding their flocks a healthy knowledge of the original languages allows for peering deeper into the text to get the really meaty portions out for their flocks. Without this ability these leaders are handicapped in their exegetical/homiletical approaches.
     
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    Didn't know you were in the business of translating Bibles, young man. My apologies.
     
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    Wow! Thanks for that! Why can't you use it?
     
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    I can; it is just hard. Normally I would download such videos to my Zune, and watch them while on the treadmill. There format will not let me download them!
     
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    Hopefully when I get my Ipod touch I can download them onto that
     
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    I did discover one way; the program Camstasia allows you to record from your browser window. This worked great!
     
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    Hmmm....did you get that off of CNET?
     
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    Havensdad:

    How are you enjoying that program at New Orleans Baptist? I'm assuming you are doing their fairly new online studies in biblical languages? When I finish the D.Min. I am earning presently I have thought about using up a trickle of Military Education Benefits I have remaining and getting some more formal work in the languages. How is their program?
     
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    It's going great! Sometimes the people (other students) do not interact as much as I would like them to, at least in my last class. I have a feeling this one will be better in that department.

    The program is well structured, and my only complaint is the textbook they use for Intro to Hebrew. It seems rather obscure compared to some others...harder to find extra resources for it, and it uses an inductive approach, which I am not to sure about. I really liked Mounce's system for Greek (learning alot of the details before you get into heavy translation/reading), as he kind of "eased" you into it; this one seems kind of like your a chick getting pushed out of the nest by momma bird.
     
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    [/QUOTE]My college Hebrew was like that. We did a year's worth every semester. Man alive it was tough. You held on for dear life. I wish Mounce would write a Hebrew grammar too :)
    Which one is that?

    Hey...tell me more about that computer program you mentioned. PM me if you need to.
     
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    Thanks. I did the tools courses with Liberty in both languages but I plan to get deeper. Either on my own with some software etc. or with NOBTS. Blessings all over you while you study!
     
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    I am actually cheating on this (well, its not cheating, really. It is certainly allowed; just one of those ways of manipulating the system), I took Greek classes, then took the ICE exam for Biblical Greek (and passed, of course). I am planning on doing the same thing for Hebrew; I just can't see spending the extra 1200 bucks...can't pass up six (almost) free credits.
     

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