Lebanese PM Sinora is having his strings pulled by Iran and Syria

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  1. Joseph_Botwinick

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    Just listened to an interview with Sinora on Fox. He is totally blaming Israel for everything, refused to cast any blame on Iran and Syria, and at no point in the interview took any responsibility for not living up to his responsibility to remove Hezbollah from the Southern Border. He whined and cried about all the death and destruction within his border, but seems unwilling to do anything about like send the legitimate military to the Southern Border to disarm Hezbollah. The correspondent interviewing him speculated that perhaps Syria has threatened to attack Lebanon if he sent his military down there. He sounded more like an agressive ally of Iran and Syria than he did an innocent dupe stuck in the middle. There are two possibilities that I can see for this change in posture:

    1. He is an enemy and the war needs to expand to include regime change.

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    2. He is still an innocent dupe stuck in the middle, except now he is being directly threatened by Iran and Syria. If this is the case, I see no way that this war can be resolved without expanding into Syria and Iran.

    What think ye?

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    3. He is a pawn STUCK in the middle. While he may be guilty, he may be innocent - that I have no information on.

    3.b. I do know that the Lebanese army is weak and ineffective.

    3.c. If he sends the army down there - they will be cut up like they were in the early 80's. Stuck between the IDF and militias - from what I remember they took pretty heavy casualties.
     
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    It is true that they are weak. I think, however, if Sinora wanted peace, he would ally with Israel against Hezbollah and defeat them, not ally with Iran and Syria. I do think Israel would be willing to focus on Hezbollah with Lebanon if they showed they were willing to work with Israel. It seems to me that whether it be out of fear of Iran and Syria or agreement with them, he has decided to ally with Iran and Syria.

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    I agree that he has allied himself with the wrong forces. Israel would love nothing more than to have a friendly government minus the Hezbollah to its north. IF Hezbollah is removed I predict that the American taxpayer will rebuild Lebanon's airport, bridges, and infrastructure. But that's okay if we can move this tiny postage stamp of Lebanon into the western camp.
     
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    They have certainly alligned with Iran and Syria. What I cannot figure out is if they are doing it out of fear or out of heart felt commitment.

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    I've heard that the Lebanese "army" contains a significant number of Shiite muslims. The fear may be that these Shiites would not fight against Hezbollah (a Shiite organization), especially when doing so would be siding with Israel.

    I don't fault the PM. He's really in an impossible situation. There is truly nothing he can do.
     
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    Fear. The Lebanese PM is from an Anti-Syrian faction. I'm fairly certain he doesn't like Israel, but I doubt he cares for Iran or Syria either. He doesn't want Lebanon to be a puppet regime, but at this point, they pretty much have to be.
     
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    The last time Lebanese sided with the Israelis, the Lebanese lost alot. The Lebanese militia was sent into a part of the city. They conducted 'military operations' that the commanders later said were ordered by the Israelis. And the Christians were left with the blame for a massacre of Lebanese civilians. That massacre crippled the 'Christian' majority and their government. They have never recovered.

    And the Israeli commander, credit with that operation, went home to Israel. I doubt that the Lebanese have forgotten that feeling of betrayal. And I doubt that they have forgotten the man they consider responsible, even if he is in a coma.
     
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    Fear is right.

    I doubt that PM Siniora trusts any of the countries around him. Lebanon got torn apart by wars that were not part of their doing.

    And I doubt that he trusts us right now.

    I would not be surprised if Lebanon decided to go VERY hardline and build up their own army. I would not even be surprised if they went fascist.
     
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    Any member of Hamas and Hezbollah who refuses to surrender and disarm should be treated as an enemy in war and eliminated. If this causes Syria and/or Iran to jump in, then regime change will have to be forced on those countries.

    Hamas and Hezbollah have had ample opportunity to show that they can be peaceful and allow the establishment of a Palestinian state. They have wasted their opportunity and now must be destroyed, or else a few years from now this will all happen again.

    This has been going on for long enough. It's time to prick the boil and end it.
     
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    Palestinian state?

    That Palestinian state thing is the reason they are in Lebanon firing back at Israel.
     
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    But, on the BRIGHT SIDE: I am PROUD that Americans like you and Bill Clinton are picking up arms and are willingly going over to effect regime change . . .

    If the POTUS needs to clean up after you two - he has my number. ;)
     

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