Let the Alibi begin

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  1. Major B

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    I guess they are talking about those people who are holding on to their guns and religion.
     
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    There are people who will vote for Obama because of his race and there are people who will vote against him because of his race. Is this surprising?
     
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    Wow, talk about out of touch with reality.

    From your second link:
    The left will never be able to comprehend that their candidates are rejected because of their ideas, not their race. If they believed that then they would have to admit that their ideas were, if not flawed, at least unpopular.

    Our country remains divided today as we were 4 and 8 years ago because neither side has tried to win over the minds and opinions of voters. Conservatives, instead of arguing their positions were right have instead moved their positions to the center trying to win voters by being more liberal. Liberals, instead of arguing their positions were right have instead tried to pander to women, or minorities, or any other sub group they think they have cataloged and figured out.

    Lord help us.:tonofbricks:
     
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    No, not surprising at all, but what is absolutely mind numbing is that they believe the ONLY reason anyone would vote against Obama is because of his race. In their minds he is the perfect candidate other than his race.

    Racists and sexists exist on both sides and hopefully they will cancel each other out.:praying:
     
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    Yes, it seems that people don't consider that Obama is unpopular because of his ideas. There is no doubt that there are some for whom race is a factor. But I imagine that there are probably equal parts on both sides of that. The truth is that Obama has bad ideas that people don't like. As bad as Bush was, and as bad as McCain is, the reason Obama is doing bad is because people don't like his ideas.
     
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    Obama isn't really black (negro) anyway. He's more African Arab/White than anything. Kinda a Heinz 57 variety like most Americans....
     
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    Seems this "What he is" topic is off limits since I see little about it. It would be interesting to know why he chose to be black instead of the other possibilities.
     
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    The suggestion that white people of a certain age simply can not bring themselves to vote for a black man is just stupid. If that were the case how in world do they explain Douglas Wilder former Gov. of VA, Congressman J.C. Watts and other elected black leaders? I happen to have voted for Douglas Wilder when I lived in VA. I will not be voting for BHO because he supports a socialist agenda, abortion, tax and spend policies, and I believe he would be weak on national security. His race has nothing to do with my choice to vote against him.:BangHead:
     
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    I was very impressed with Governor Wilder and wrote to him to encourage him to run for president. His presidential run was rather short-lived.
     
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    Prager is a prophet. Clarence Page chimed in today.
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/09/obama_vsbubba_vote.html
    The Myth is Dead, Let The Alibi Begin
    By Charles T. Buntin

    In the past several days there have been several opinion pieces linked to the central idea that If Obama loses, it is because we rural white folks are all racists. The most well-known writers are Clarence Page and Matt Rothschild, and today there was another opinion piece in The Progressive, by Kevin Gray. What is especially ironic, and a bit funny, is that conservative talk show host Dennis Prager posted an article two days ago predicting this would happen, and happening it is! The Mainstream Media must be brain-linked, or perhaps they sense a change in the electorate, so they are crafting the alibi-lie

    Sharing the self-absorbed hubris of their candidate, who apparently thinks that we are all bitter, cousin-marryin', flag-wavin,' gun-totin,' Bible-thumpin' cretins if we won't vote for him.

    The alibi is being formulated, and in the Mind of Obama the Exalted, the narrative must conform to the legend he imagines himself to be.

    He will never be tempermentally able to say, 'I was defeated because the American people decided they did not like my announced policies and they wanted a real Commander in Chief." That would not match with his self-designed personal journey to greatness. This is a man who has published two biographies when he has not had sufficient real life experiences to merit an article. Colin Powell has a real narrative--forged in war and peace, from housing projects in New York to the White House--and he earned that narrative every day, in ways that only a career military professional can understand--and he contended with racism that OBAMA never knew. Condaleeza Rice, whether you like her or not, has a narrative, and it does not consist of dreams, visions, or hubris, but of real work done. It is about a girl who would have died as a young teen had she not been sick the day of the Birmingham Bombing, for those little girls who died were her classmates.

    In my military career, I served with or met many of John McCain's fellow prisoners, and what I found in almost all of them was (1) selflessness, (2) Absorption in others instead of oneself, (3) A sense of mission, and (4) an overwhelming humility combined with (5) a quiet, definite strength and maturity. I will never forget the day in 1984 when, along with 800 other junior officers, I was blessed to attend a symposium of former POWs. McCain was not there, but several of his fellow-prisoners were. The POWs sat at on couches in the cavernous auditorium, and we listened in total hushed silence as they passed the microphone around and just talked. Then, they answered questions for nearly two hours—serious questions, searching questions, soul questions. When the time was done, we were called to attention and as we stood there, a montage of American scenes were flashed across the huge screen, and for the first time, I heard these words: “If tomorrow all the things were Gone I’d worked for all my life…”. As the music grew and the words cut at us like knives, 800 professional military officers, men and women alike, wept like babies. Fighter jocks, hard-nosed maintenance officers, spooky intelligence officers, security officers and spookier missile launch officers cried and thanked God that there were men like these. That is the kind of man John McCain is.

    All I see and hear in Barak Obama is hubris, self-absorption, and vapidity beyond degree. I still don’t know what a community organizer is, and suspect that if I knew, I’d be less than impressed. His positions scare the pants off me, and the idea of him going head to head with Vladimir Putin is frightening. I can’t vote for the man, but it isn't race. I would vote for Colin Powell, with whom I disagree on many things, or for JC Watss with whom I agree on nearly everything. Heck, I'd vote for Condaleeza Rice without hesitation. These are genuine people who clawed up from the bottom and have achieved many times over what results (?) we find in the OBAMA Mythology. What I find in the narrative is Mr. Obama's empty suit. These folks just happen to be African-American, being African-American is a profession for OBAMA.

    The alibi is being readied.



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    People have a hard time admitting defeat because of the issues. They would rather it be something else. But it is interesting, because in my view some in the Obama camp seem to already be admitting defeat.
     
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    Hey now, watch out! I may be a cousin-marryin', flag-wavin,' gun-totin,' Bible-thumpin' cretin, but that does not make me a racist!:laugh:

    And, BTW, you left out illiterate, meat-eatin', tobacco spittin', banjo pickin' redneck hillbilly who drives a gas-guzzling truck, has green teeth, and fornicates with livestock. That does not make me a racist either.:tongue3:

    OK, I will be honest here, that is not 100% truthful. I can't play the Banjo at all, I just wish I could. :saint:
     
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    But you WANT to...
     
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    Well I need something to do when I'm not pulling ramps, hunting 'sang, or stoking the fire under my still while sippin' corn squeezins.

    Something besides plotting racist ways to keep black Americans subjected of course.

    I just loved being catagorized, labeled, and put into a box by the Democratic party. Does anybody else remember Jesse Jackson's excuse when Walter Mondale lost to Regan. He said that Mondale's campaign was run by SmartA** White Boys. (please excuse the profanity in the quote)
     
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    The actual original quote was Andrew Young's comment about Carter's White House Sraff, which were mainly UGA frat boys.
     
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    It will really get ugly if McCain wins electoral vote and Obama wins popular because the average voter either dont know that this is constitutional or dont agree with it.
     
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    Your right, it was Young wasn't it. Man that is almost racist of me to mix them up isn't it? It was Andrew Young, but he did say it about Mondale's campaign according to this Time magazine article about Jackson and Mondale (ain't Google great):

    http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,952481-2,00.html

    From the link [profanity **ed out]:
     
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    I am sure that he said it about Mondale's staff as well, but he originally said it after he was sacked as US rep to the UN during the Carter administration. I know this, because the late great Lewis Grizzard often described that statement at that time as being his moment of ethnic discovery--as an SAWB
     

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