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Let the Dems defeat Alito

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by church mouse guy, Jan 11, 2006.

  1. church mouse guy

    church mouse guy Well-Known Member
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    The Dems want blood along with their pound of flesh even though they know that it is not lawful to take blood. Let them have Alito; why should the GOP spend one ounce of energy on behalf of Alito? Let's just sit back, let them Dems do their mindless thing, and then make Bush appoint someone that we really want.
     
  2. KenH

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    After the Miers debacle, it sounded like Alito was who the Republican conservatives wanted.
     
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    CMG,

    I'm very happy with Alito. I don't think he will be a Scalia but I believe he will be somewhere between Rehnquist and Scalia. And he may wind up being closer to Scalia than I currently think he will be. He'll apparently be a little too conservative for Ken and whichever party he supports this week.
     
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    I am extremely pleased with Alito...probably because I don't have the same ammount of hatred for Catholics as some on this board do.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
  5. church mouse guy

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    I think that it is a mistake to allow the majority of the court to be Catholic. Our forefathers died at the hands of Catholics and we came to this wilderness to get away from Catholics. There were very few Catholics here in 1776 but now they are on the verge of taking over the nation, which will only drag it down, as no Catholic country has ever had lasting prosperity.

    Also, the Democrats are playing a game with Alito, so let them win unfairly. I am getting sick of this Democrat grandstanding.

    I could care less about what happens to Alito. I think he is worthless.
     
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    I rest my case.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
  7. KenH

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    1) I wouldn't be so sure about that, ftr. [​IMG]

    2) I support no political party as I there is not one that I agree with 100%. Besides that, I have no need to belong to a political party. We have open primaries in Arkansas and if I want to vote for a certain candidate in his party's primary, such as Jim Holt for the GOP nomination for Arkansas Lieutenant Governor this year, then I can do so without being a member of the Republican Party.
     
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    Me, too. What's wrong with this picture? Second topic I have agreed with Joseph on in the past few minutes. Perhaps I'm getting senile. [​IMG]
     
  9. church mouse guy

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    It is a mistake not to belong to a party. It has only given us decades of divided government, which has meant that the politicians divided up the money among themselves and left the public out. Not to belong to a party really favors the Democrats because very few want to be Democrats but the lack of party loyalty allows the Democrats more than they otherwise would be entitled to. However, it is good to have the Democrats as a blunt instrument to use to correct wayward Republicans.

    As for those of you who think that Catholicism is benign, please show me where Catholics say that non-Catholics go to Heaven.
     
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    I believe they made this statement in Vatican 2. They did, unfortunately, cross to the other extreme into heresy of universalism.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
  11. KenH

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    :confused:

    It is blind party loyalty that gives us divided government as party members support issues or people simply because of party affiliation.

    More and more people are now describing themselves as independents. I am glad to be in their growing number. [​IMG]
     
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    I believe they made this statement in Vatican 2. They did, unfortunately, cross to the other extreme into heresy of universalism.

    Joseph Botwinick
    </font>[/QUOTE]I think this is it here:

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    Joseph Botwinick
     
  13. church mouse guy

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    It is blind party loyalty that gives us divided government as party members support issues or people simply because of party affiliation.

    More and more people are now describing themselves as independents. I am glad to be in their growing number. [​IMG]
    </font>[/QUOTE]By divided government, I mean half-Democrat and half-Republican so that nothing gets done. For years, we had Republican Presidents and Democrat Congresses so that gridlock was assured.

    The best solution is to vote one party into complete control and if they fail, then vote the other party into complete control.

    Independents are mostly among younger people with shorter memories of what each one of the two parties has done or has not done. Independents really help the Democrats because it is harder for people to say that they are Democrats nowadays and many ex-Democrats hide under the label of Independent.
     
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    1) No, thank you. One party rule reminds me of the Soviet Union and other communist countries.

    2) Good. Then we independents will continue to grow in numbers and political clout. [​IMG]
     
  15. church mouse guy

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    Catholicism goes on to teach in Dominus Jesus that churches such as Baptist churches are not really churches at all, so the Popes are still throwing stones at Protestants theologically. More importantly, the Catholic doctrine of Justification is corrupt and based upon merit.

    Catholicism has not fostered economic prosperity. One reason is that Protestants emphasize reading the Bible and that has given rise to a higher literacy rate in Protestant countries, which is the basis of a good economic system. Also, Protestants have the Protestant work ethic, which says that if you don't work, you don't eat.

    Catholic bishops in the US have become socialistic in their economic thinking and only recently Latin America was infected with communist-leaning Catholic clergy. The late Pope was against the USA for going to war with Iraq. Also, he was a sharp critic of Israel, often siding openly with the Arabs, who doublecrossed him by trying to surround a Catholic church in Nazareth with a mosque, forcing him to ask Israel for help. Also, Catholics have the non-Christian doctrine that the death penalty is wrong.

    Look also at the problem in Latin America where birth control is not allowed. Clearly, the Catholic Church in Mexico is exporting people that it cannot feed, clothe, or house to the USA rather than allow the use of birth control. Don't you think that it is immoral to ask your neighbor to feed the children that you spawned?
     
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    1) No, thank you. One party rule reminds me of the Soviet Union and other communist countries.

    2) Good. Then we independents will continue to grow in numbers and political clout. [​IMG]
    </font>[/QUOTE]I doubt if your ideas will succeed. We have had several decades of them and it has only led to the current situation where the politicians tie up the country for months while they themselves milk the lobbyists. The Democrat Party has deserved defeat for many years for what they have done to this country. A few years in the back benches would be good for them.

    It is not a one-party state if there are two parties in the election. In communist countries like Cuba, there is only one party in the election. If you have a choice between A and B and you take one or the other it is better that taking 1/2 A and 1/2 B--which is what I have been talking about and not what you have twisted it into.
     
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    Which ideas are those, cmg?
     
  18. UnchartedSpirit

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    sorry for interupting, no! Please dont run away! I was wondering about why a nominees opinions from their cases are so desired by everyone on the hearings
     
  19. KenH

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    Because they believe that they indicate how he will rule on the Supreme Court.
     
  20. UnchartedSpirit

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    so why should they be withheald information?
     
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