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"Let the Spirit guide you..."

Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by uhdum, Mar 1, 2004.

  1. Precepts

    Precepts New Member

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    Irrelevent. I know saved people with Adhd and they understand the KJB well enough and as their comprehension allows.
    Then in the simplicity of his mind he should recognize why the other refused the niv. The things of the Spirit are related by spirit. Would you be the right one to sit down with your friend and have the right spirit to teach him? Remember the Ethiopian eunic asked Philip to guide him through Isaiah 53. The mv advoctaes seem to demand something that isn't found anywhere in scripture. They seem to believe the scripture is understood in one's own individual reading, that is contrary to the Lord's requirement that every word is to be established in the mouths of 2 or 3 witnesses. We have that in the KJB, but still it is only understood by those who have come together in the Spirit of Truth and agree together on any one thing.

    We know the mv advoctae is at least misled, else he wouldn't deny verbal plenary inspiration and the Divine preservation of God's True Word.

    My advice to you is to sit down with your friend with a KJB and his niv. Study awhile particualr passages concerning what you know are Doctrinal according the those that explain who Jesus is. There you and your friend will undoubtedly come to the knowledge of the Truth that the KJB is right, the niv misleads.
     
  2. russell55

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    If you think advocating and MV means someone denies verbal plenary inspiration or divine presevation then you don't understand either one of those doctrines.
     
  3. ScottEmerson

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    I agree up until the end. Many, many of us have come to the knowledge of the Truth that both of them are correct. The NIV is just a whole lot easier to comprehend, understand, and tell others.
     
  4. Elijah

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    If you think advocating and MV means someone denies verbal plenary inspiration or divine presevation then you don't understand either one of those doctrines. </font>[/QUOTE]Russell- You just hit the nail on the head. [​IMG]
     
  5. robycop3

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    Michelle:The King James Bible is not in a foriegn language. The KJV is in the ENGLISH LANGUAGE. You are again comparing apples with oranges. For those of you who say the English in the KJV is difficult to understand, that is plain ridiculous and unfounded.

    "God lufode middan-eard swa, dat he seade his an-cennedan sunu, dat nan ne forweorde de on hine gely ac habbe dat ece lif."

    This is Scripture in English. Recognize it?

    At one time, this was the most modern English available. Did God update His word from this English, or did man corrupt it by updating it? Should it have been left as it is above?

    Too tuff for you to understand? Let's move forward 400 years from it, same as we've moved 400 years from the AV 1611:

    "for god loued so the world; that he gaf his oon bigetun sone, that eche man that bileueth in him perisch not: but haue euerlastynge liif,"

    Easier for YOU to recognize? At one time, it was an example of the most modern English on earth.

    Still a little tuff?

    "For God so loued the world, that he gaue his only begotten Sonne: that whosoeuer beleeueth in him, should not perish, but haue euerlasting life."
    This is from the Bible you claim to use, in the most modern English on earth at the time it was written.

    Can you read & understand each & every word in the above examples of English-language Scripture, each written in the most modern English of its day? If so, congrats. But if not, you have no grounds upon which to attack a modern-English BV.(Not that you do anyway, as you cannot give us the source of your authority to do so.)

    Please don't holler about the changes between the AV and the later versions, since ALL of them, old and new, differ among themselves anyway. Fact is, the KJVO myth is hollow as ever, and no amount of spin can justify it.

    BY WHOSE AUTHORITY....?
     
  6. Precepts

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    Cranston, I have many that believe and agree the KJB is the Word of God to the English speaking people, God knows it and whether you know it or no one else knows it God is the Majority and the Authoority, He said so in the KJB, but the nasV says plainly that the Lord was deceived, the KJB says plainly they "did flater" NOT they "did deceive".

    Continue on in your deceived state, but that is not my wish or God's either, but it is your choice in the matter, you are responsible fo0r that choice.

    How do I know the KJB is that "tongue"? Well it says so right there in the KJB!
     
  7. Orvie

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    Blah, blah, blah. So, where exactly does the KJV:kjb say anything about the KJV;kjb? You should stop arrogantly stating your opinion about the KJV;kjb= God's opinion. If you continue to do so Methinketh thou art going to start a new sect: Preceptians or QSites. :eek:
     
  8. michelle

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    Peace and love to you in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour!

    I think it would help you in realizing that the English language was being established and perfected throughout these historic moments. Can we honestly say the same thing of the modern english? If you agree with this, then are you all for providing a version for those who speak ebonics? Why stop there, and hey, there are some people that speak like valley girls. Why not make a special version for them to be able to understand? Where does it end? Should we really transform from the perfected language of English that is from that time to the imperfect, politically correct modern english of today?

    Again, the comparisons from the earlier english reading Bibles to the current Bible is not the same as what is being done with the modern versions.

    For me, I'd rather have a biblically accurate Bible than a politically correct one.

    love in Jesus Christ our Faithful Lord and Saviour,
    michelle
     
  9. BrianT

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    Michelle, the point being discussed is not Biblically accurate vs. politically accurate. It is about whether God can help you understand something that you have trouble understanding when you read it. If that's how we're to understand one Bible, to be consistent that's how we are to understand any other Bible.
     
  10. robycop3

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    Precepts:Cranston, I have many that believe and agree the KJB is the Word of God to the English speaking people, God knows it and whether you know it or no one else knows it God is the Majority and the Authoority, He said so in the KJB, but the nasV says plainly that the Lord was deceived, the KJB says plainly they "did flater" NOT they "did deceive".

    Can you prove it in the Greek? Of course not; all you can tell is is that the KJVO myth says.

    Continue on in your deceived state, but that is not my wish or God's either, but it is your choice in the matter, you are responsible fo0r that choice.

    Actually, the "deceived state" is believing a false man-made myth whose origins are clearly known, that has NO Scriptural support, and for which you cannot even tell us BY WHOSE AUTHORITY you believe it and tell us WE should.

    How do I know the KJB is that "tongue"? Well it says so right there in the KJB!

    Chapter and verse, please??
     
  11. uhdum

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    I've seen one in my local Christian bookstore, he he [​IMG] Thought about getting it, since it was in the $4 and under bargain bin, but didn't; the next time I was there, it was gone. A golden opportunity missed, he he.

    God bless!
     
  12. michelle

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    Peace and love to you all in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour!


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    uhdum quoted:
    I've seen one in my local Christian bookstore, he he Thought about getting it, since it was in the $4 and under bargain bin, but didn't; the next time I was there, it was gone. A golden opportunity missed, he he.
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    Uhdum,

    At first I was surprised to see your post regarding the actual existence of one, but I do not doubt it in the least bit. Wow. This is getting unreal. Thanks for that info.

    love in Jesus Christ our Faithful Lord and Saviour,
    michelle
     
  13. Elijah

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    Robycop: Dont you mean chapter and verse without a twist please? [​IMG]
     
  14. tinytim

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    Hey, has anyone besides me seen a ryhming or rapping Bible.

    I saw one about 5 years ago, but did'nt buy it.

    Wish I had.
    I'd never preach or teach from it, but it would be great to put jingles to.
     
  15. robycop3

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    Robycop: Dont you mean chapter and verse without a twist please? [​IMG] </font>[/QUOTE]That could be asking too much of a KJVO. They don't like the parts of the KJV that show their myth to be wrong, such as Luke 4:16-21 compared to Isaiah 42:8 & Isaiah 61:1-3.

    Notice Precepts didn't answer, and he HAS posted since I asked him for some Scripture.
     
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