Ok there seems to be some confusion about terms with the atonement so I thought perhaps an entire thread should be devoted to it. As I understand there are 4 basic views on the atonement: 1. Limited/Particular atonement This is unlimited in power to the elect but particular to the elect. This is the historical Calvinist position and that held by Particular Baptists. 2. General atonement. This is the view that the atonement was unlimited in the potential number of people covered but limited by the choices of man. Under this view, all sins can potentially be forgiven but none are until the sinner believes, an act of his own free will. 3. Universal substitutionary atonement for all men without exception. In this view all men will go to heaven since all men have had their sins paid for. 4. Limited universal atonement THis is universal in that it atones for the sins of all men. It is limited in that it only atones for MOST of their sins. THe sins of unbelief must be overcome by the sinner. Have I missed any thing? Let me know. I know there is the view that sinners go to hell with their sins paid for but I think that is so unorthodox and heretical that it is not even worth adding to the list.