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Lev 15:30

Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by freeatlast, Apr 21, 2004.

  1. freeatlast

    freeatlast New Member

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    In lev. 15 it deals with a woman's issue of blood. Here is the passage in question.

    Lev 15:30 And the priest shall offer the one [for] a sin offering, and the other [for] a burnt offering; and the priest shall make an atonement for her before the LORD for the issue of her uncleanness.

    The passage requires a sin offering. Also there is the same requirement after having a child. My question is what sin has been committed here? Why a sin offering. Can anyone shed any light on this? The same requirement is commanded for a woman having a child in chapter 12 so what is the sin in either or both cases? :confused:
     
  2. Audra

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    Maybe it has to do with Eve's sin.
     
  3. TC

    TC Active Member
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    I've heard someone (I think it was Kay Arthur - maybe) say the sin offering in Leviticus 12 is because the woman gave birth to a little sinner. She did a week long radio thing on it about 2 or 3 years ago
     
  4. Hamtramck_Mike

    Hamtramck_Mike New Member

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    But remember TC that Mary went up to the temple after the Birth of Jesus
     
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    I didn't say I agreed with her - just reported what she said. I haven't studied Lev. 12 or 15 enough to say exactly what the sin offering is for - but it appears to be connected to Eve's sin.
     
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    It seems to me that I have read the Jews believed the act of a husband and wife 'knowing' each other was sinful because it was driven basically by lust of the flesh. Remember, the fall awakened Adam and Eve to their nakedness and perhaps this subsequent desire.

    Mary, if you remember was not known publically to have given birth to the Son of God by the overshadowing of the Holy Spirit, though her husband did know this information, they could not disobey the Law, or they and we would suffer:

    Note:

    Mary would have been guilty of disobeying the Law, and maybe even Joseph, I don't know what the punishment could have been, but the Jews didn't play dodge ball.

    In all things, Christ fulfilled the Law, how could it be said this portion of it was neglected?

    Just some thoughts, though it may not be entirely right, I don't have a problem agreeing with the idea of this being 'considered' an act of sin resulting from lust or desire, and therefore sinful and in need of a sin offering.

    Bro. Dallas
     
  7. Abiyah

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    Freeatlast --
    This has nothing to do with a woman committing a sin; rather, it has to do with contact with blood. Although what I write has to do with the past, it is also the present day belief and practice; however, I will write my answer in the past tense.

    Every time a woman had her monthly period, it was a "little death," because each period was a response to an unfertilized egg. The sacrifice was necessary for cleansing before HaShem because of contact with the thing that was so against creation -- blood and its direct association with death.

    Although relations between a wife and a husband were and are highly celebrated, when a woman gave birth, once again, she did so with a release much blood and a close call with death. Her child, also, came close to death and had contact with blood. Such body fluid release always rendered one unclean. Of course, it must be remembered that when a wife and husband had relations, this rendered them unclean for a period of time, and laws were to be followed for cleansing.

    What many believers who do not practice these things, or who have not studied them, do not understand is that it was and is not a shame or a bad thing to become unclean or for the people back then to have to offer a sin offering. This was normal life, common, ordinary, not something to hide. Remember that the priests, in doing their priestly duties, were also rendered unclean within the Temple.
     
  8. Paul of Eugene

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    Abiyah, the knowledge that women actually have eggs was only made known to mankind after the cellular structure of all life became known. Do you have any insights into how the woman's part in conception was viewed before the microscope was invented?
     
  9. Abiyah

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    The idea that our bodies are formed in continuum was not discovered until the 18th century. Can you explain how David knew this and wrote of it in the Psalms?
     
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