Ligonier Ministries - What Do You Think Of Them?

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  1. eightball

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    A close Christian friend of mine gave me a gift subscription to a monthly magazine called, "Tabletalk", and it is from Ligonier Ministries. R.C. Sproul is the Executive Editor.

    He felt that I would enjoy it.

    Is my friend trying to proselytize me in some covert way into any abherrent biblical teaching?
     
  2. Dustin

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    It's actually a very good publication. I got like 3 or 4 free issues. Unless you think Reformation/presbyterian theology is abherrant, then I don't think you'll have a problem with it.

    The main reason why I disagree with anything Sproul write is because he's infralapsarian. That's a whole 'nother fish to fry right there. Otherwise, he's pretty good.

    I recommend it, and I think it will be enjoyable for you.


    Soli Deo Gloria,
    Dustin
     
  3. Gerhard Ebersoehn

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    Dustin, please explain (for my sake) how you understand infra- and supralapsarianism? Thanks!
     
  4. BobRyan

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    He is a great Bible teacher -- enjoy!

    (another good point in his favor is that Dustin is kinda lukewarm on his teaching):laugh:

    in Christ,

    Bob
     
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    Dustin , I don't understand . On one hand you think "It's a very good publication ." Then you withdrawl your commendation by saying that you "disagree with anything R.C. writes because he's infralapsarian ."

    I daresay there are many teachings of his that have little to nothing to do with his infralapsarianism .
     
  6. Dustin

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    I DO think it's a good publication, but i just don't agree with his infralapsarianism. Not exactly withdrawing the commendation, I just disagree with his position. Like I said, he's very good on other things.


    Most likely I worded it wrong and didn't explain clearly enough.


    I don't understand myself half the time, so join the club! :laugh:


    Soli Deo Gloria,
    Dustin
     
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    Supralapsarian = election before the fall

    Infralapsarian = election after the fall
     
  8. hillclimber1

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    I get some good stuff out of his teaching, but his calvinistic bent is a bit much for me. I haven't supported his ministry, other than a couple books.
     
  9. hillclimber1

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    I certainly wouldn't send a new believer to him.
     
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    RC Sproul and his "Tabletalk" publication may be enjoyable for some, but when I asked for just ONE copy so I could determine if I wanted to continue receiving it, they sent me several more in rapid succession. All the while they were dunning me for money to support their ministry. Took about a year for them to quit

    He and Benny Hinn can take a leap as far as i am concerned.
     
  11. BobRyan

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    Admittedly he is Calvinist and I am almost as far as it is possible to be from a 5 point calvinist -- but his weekly radio broadcast is very insightful none-the-less.

    in Christ,

    Bob
     
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    Jim-1611 : You are not the least bit familiar with R.C. Sproul to put him in the same category as Benny Hinn ! It seems like your lack of level-headedness regarding the KJVO issue is about on the same plane as your understanding of Calvinism .
     
  13. eightball

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    I think that remark about Sproul/Hinn was "tongue and cheek" in nature, and not making the two similar doctrinally. :)
     
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    At least some people get me.;) It was somewhat tongue in cheek.

    My point is simply the similarity in begging for money 'ad infintum'. And I DO mean begging!

    As for that KJVo remark that other fellow said, well......:BangHead:
     
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    AV - I'm sad to hear you say that. Hinn and Sproul aren't even in the same league. Hinn is a heretic. Sproul is a great Bible teacher and theologian.
     
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    R.C.'s a great teacher, I really enjoyed his radio broadcast when it was available in our area (sadly I can't pick it up any more).

    I subscribed to TableTalk for a year a while back.

    Good articles but they do have a weakness.
    They give their view of a doctrine but generally don't present the opposing sides of an argument.

    My favorite issue presented their view of baptism, which of course wasn't a Baptist view.
    It was well argued and presented; I still keep the issue even though I disagree.

    I also lean strongly towards dispensationalism, a view that R.C. Sproul does not hold.

    If you can get past some of these "weaknesses", he is a solid teacher. :laugh:

    Enjoy his magazine; compare and contrast it with what you have been taught and use it as a springboard for further study.

    Rob
     
  17. eightball

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    Thank you for your "take" on this subject.
     
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    ==It is is a great ministry. It is not "abherrent biblical teaching" (unless you think men like Luther, Spurgeon, Whitefield, Newton, etc, were abherrent).
     
  19. hillclimber1

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    That about sums it up for me too. I enjoy his weekly program.
     
  20. TaliOrlando

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    What is Promise Keepers!!

    A friend of mine invited me to this mens conference called Promise Keepers. Has anyone ever gone to this? Thanks Tali
     

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