"LIVE 24HR FEED" Sexperiment with Ed and Lisa Young

I am no fan of Joel, not by a longshot, but you dealt unfairly with his comment there. He did not give anyone permission to commit adultery. He explained what one choice a wife can make that will be used as a reason by many men. He told the truth.

I don't think you dealt fairly with Driscol either. His point was that a wife who is saved that acts with respect, submission, grace and mercy can be used by God to change a man's heart.

I don't know what the context of Young's comment was, but it seems way out there.

Your example of the African American preacher that you can't name only proves my point. We need to preach the whole council of God's Word, and that includes boldly and openly preaching what God actually says about sex. If he would have kept to the truth of the following passage he would have been much better off.

Co 7:1 Now concerning the things about which you wrote, it is good for a man not to touch a woman.
1Co 7:2 But because of immoralities, each man is to have his own wife, and each woman is to have her own husband.
1Co 7:3 The husband must fulfill his duty to his wife, and likewise also the wife to her husband.
1Co 7:4 The wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does; and likewise also the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does.
1Co 7:5 Stop depriving one another, except by agreement for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer, and come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. (NASB)


Too many men use sex to prove their manhood. Too many women use it as a weapon to get what they want from men (whether physical or emotional) thereby proving their power.

 

I knew what you meant.

Sex has been abused and misused and it is high time we taught what God actually says about it. Puritanical attitudes about sex have done a great deal of damage. In fact, I would suggest they are to blame for the anything goes attitude we see in the world. I don't know how many people I have heard reject God, Christ, the Bible, and the Church based almost solely on this issue.

I do apologize for upsetting you. My intent is simply to stand on what God actually says in His Word on this and any issue.

 

Does Size Make it Right?

Not in my books. There are mega churches all over (Osteen, Warren, etc.) and that does not make them Scripturally right or even in God's will. You are right about one thing: "One circus is as good as another one, as long as a lot of people come see it!" This is why the words about the path to heaven being narrow rings so true. The road to hell is wide, and filled from side to side.

 

No, no, no, you've got it backwards. I believe God. I don't believe wacko fundamentalists.

 

The first formulation of American fundamentalist beliefs can be traced to the Niagara Bible Conference and, in 1910, to the General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church which distilled these into what became known as the "five fundamentals"


The inspiration of the Bible and the inerrancy of Scripture as a result of this.
The virgin birth of Christ.
The belief that Christ's death was the atonement for sin.
The bodily resurrection of Christ.
The historical reality of Christ's miracles.

Like I said if you do not believe God why would you believe me?

 

Um, yeah, you're not understanding, bud. I believe God, I just don't believe you. That list is great - it's that you expand the list to say a million other things that God doesn't.

But this has nothing to do with this conversation.

 

The Song of Solomon has not been preached openly very much since the church adopted the modern vulgar interpretation of it, the fruits of which we are beginning to see.

It USED to be preached that the Song was an illustration of the passionate nature of Christ's love for his Church. But these days they teach that it is some sort of God-ordained smut.

Frank discussion of sexual matters are healthy, but as ANNSI said, they should be done discreetly. The danger being that we make something special (i.e., holy) into something common (i.e., vulgar) by speaking of it as if it (sexual intimacy) were nothing more than sneezing.