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Local Couple arrested for endangering newborn baby

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  1. annsni

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    I'd have rather had the c-sections again. Pain doesn't even explain it when even a t-shirt caused shooting pain. It was horrible but it clears up SO fast when put on the right antibiotics.

    Yeah - it caused a lot of damage to the duct with scar tissue. If something is going to happen, it's likely to happen from the damaged tissue.

    Mastitis is a staph infection that happens in the breast from nursing. Most often it's started with a plugged duct (the milk duct gets clogged and the milk cannot drain from that active sinus to be drained through nursing - usually occurs from sleeping wrong, a too small bra, nursing in a position where the baby can't drain the breast fully or even just a lot of stress can do it), and starts with localized pain and a bruised feeling. When the pain gets worse and you suddenly feel like you have the flu with fever, chills and body aches, it's mastitis. I've had it twice. The first time, I saw my ob and he put me right on antibiotics and it cleared up in a day. It's important to continue nursing through this time to keep the breast empty. What happened to me the second time was that I got the localized infection but with getting the wrong prescription (called my regular doctor rather than my OB which was my big mistake), the infection was allowed to get worse and increase in area - and the staph bacteria got into the bloodstream. At this point, it takes IV antibiotics to clear it up or else it can lead to an abcess that actually has to be surgically drained which is NOT a good thing. So we caught it just at the beginning of the extremely serious point but it still damaged one of the lymph nodes, the one duct and the sinus that produces the milk.

    My biggest reason for starting the new mom's class at our church was because of the lack of experienced moms having contact with the new moms. I also want to be able to speak to moms about some of the more damaging "parenting experts" out there who are pushed as wonderful Godly people when their teaching is just so wrong. Also, so many moms have NO clue about nursing, diaper rashes, feeding babies, car seat safety and more AND they need some outside contact so that they don't feel so isolated. We have a church that's about 1000 people and we have a good number of babies so this group has been a great blessing to many. Right now I don't have a group running (I graduate them to a local MOPS group) but we just had a bunch more babies who have been born recently so I think I'll make up an announcement to see how much interest there is. If we get 3 moms, I'll start up a new group. :) I honestly think that each mom who has had a few kids should somehow feed their hard-earned knowledge into the new young moms in the world. I was fortunate to have my mom and grandma around, although they were clueless with nursing so they couldn't help me at all with that. So many new moms nowadays don't have anyone who can help them - because their own moms are busy working and doing their own thing. Titus 2 women are really a rare thing, unfortunately.
     
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  2. Joe

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    Hi Ann

    Sorry you went through all that pain, I hope the tissue damage doesn't cause more trouble down the road.
    I made her appointment for Feb 26th, thanks for urging me to. Physical includes a pap smear. Since cancer is likely found in damage tissue areas, then she should be checked for that too, but I don't know how yet. I am going to do more research, but there is a possibility what she had years ago was more than thrush. It could have been mastitis too. The antibiotics given would have cleared that up without us knowing, as the Doc wasn't really our Doctor but someone who donated his services. He couldn't accept money and he couldn't charge us for the visit or medication as we weren't suppose to be there.

    I'll have to online research to see if a mammogram would find cancer in that area, or if a sonogram is needed. She would know if there was cancer in the breast area, but where the scar tissue is, it would be harder to feel the cancer.

    Just getting those tests exposes you to radiation and because of the scar tissue, I would hate to have her take a screening test which actually causes cancer to grow when it normally wouldn't. No one has died of cancer, or gotten cancer in our families yet. Our Aunt by marriage has a lump in her breast, refuses to get chemotherapy. It's large and has been that way for about 10 years. She wont get chemo, and neither would I if I were her.
    New Research says chemotherapy doesn't help on most types of breast cancer, and in my opinion, may spread it.
     
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  3. annsni

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    If she were given antibiotics, it was not thrush. Thrush is a yeast infection and can be CAUSED by antibiotic use and antibiotics do nothing for it at all. If the antibiotics cleared it up, it was likely mastitis instead but it sounds like thrush was also involved since you said your son had the white spots in his mouth which is definitely indicitive of thrush. If she had both, it is definitely harder to clear up.

    My mother felt the same way about the chemo when she got breast cancer - and she died 2.5 years after her diagnosis. Honestly, if I were to get breast cancer, I'd fight it every step of the way including doing chemo if needed. I have 3 friends who are just at the other side of all the chemo and they're doing great and 2 others who are now 5 years cancer free with the chemo. All those I know who fought is without the chemo (when their doctor's recommended it) didn't make it.

    I do agree that the mamogram has radiation but I think it's also a very good way to find something before you can even feel it. One friend of mine is on our ladies retreat right now and is a survivor from finding a VERY hard to find cancer (she never would have felt it with a self exam) and she thanks God for the fact that she kept up on her mammograms. The ultrasound/sonograms also work well in conjunction with the mamo and a good breast doctor will know what to use at the right time. It's important to find a doctor who is good and who you trust because they're worth their weight in gold when it comes down to it.

    You're a wonderful husband to have made the appointment for your wife. Take her out for a nice dinner afterwards to make it a little more pleasant. :D
     
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  4. Joe

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    True. It couldn't have been antibiotics so what it was, I don't know. Something which took away the stinging immediately, both cases of thrush, and eliminated their stomach aches. Now I am curious...
    True. My wife used to get yeast infections from oral antibiotics but with a proper diet,her health got better and it doesn't happen anymore.
    I don't know now what medication we were given, I guess I was wrong. Maybe it was a few meds.
    On another note, if you see any babies with a curdled milk film on their tongue, then try to rub it off. If it rubs off, it's probably milk. If it doesn't, then it is thrush and the babies may be screaming in pain when they try to feed.
    Sorry to hear about your Mother, that's something to think about. Researchers now know offhand that chemo is very successful on certain types of cancer due to recent studies.To get the real picture, it usually takes alot of research since often some of the medical info completely condradicts itself. We had one instance (and to this day) the medical info conflicts, it's either caused by that or it's not and we know the truth of it's because it happened to us. Some docs say this, another may say the opposite.
    Well, if you have small breasts, you can feel everything. It's different than large squishy balloons where cancer can float around and all your doing is pressing it to go a different direction. This way, when you press down, you either press on cancer or you don't. My lay opinion. Larger you are, better to have a mammogram, but many factors play into it. Same with heavy people. Some obese ladies have given birth not even knowing they were pregnant. They can't tell what's wrong with their bodies because the disease or in this case, the baby, got lost in all of the fat. Where if skinny people press down on their flesh, they often know when something is amiss. Of course, skinny people often have bad bones so both offer drawbacks. Being little heavy, or even somewhat heavy imo, is healthier than being thin.
    My wife can feel everything except that one nipple which is larger and more damaged. I don't know if a mammogram checks that area or just the flesh. Otherwise, maybe she can wait until age 40 when they recommend it. She's really intune with her body.
    Wine and Dine her for taking care of her own health? For doing what she is suppose to be doing in the first place? She doesn't deserve that.....:tonofbricks:

    Just kidding, that's a good idea :thumbs:
     
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    Mamograms look at everything! Matter of fact--never mind, I don't want to get in trouble. :D

    Tell your wife that the techs have seen it all and will not be suprised and will likely not mention her problem except to possibly ask how it occured in order to note it on her chart.

    As far as the OP, ignorance happens. Whether this is a case of ignorance or outright neglect well... it could fall either way.

    I personally didn't produce enough milk with my second. I had with my first and the only indication we had that all was not right was a regular check up that found he had not gained any weight for a month (6 weeks?). He wasn't dehydrated or even fussy, he just didn't gain any weight. We ended up supplementing with formula and all was well again.

    These things happen. I was in an area with no help and neither my mother nor my MIL breastfed. Eventually, I'd like to think I'd have figured out something was going on even without weighing in at the docs, but I don't know. I was deep, deep into my first bout with depression at the time and knowing how I was, there's every possiblity I might not have caught it without that doc visit.

    DH wouldn't have known any better either, considering he was working two jobs and going to school at the time.
     
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    Hi MK
    Sorry you had such bad depression, I certainly relate, we were both very depressed at this time. Not sure about the couple in this story, if they were or were not trying to feed their baby. I read they took their baby to it's 6 week appointment at the end of December.

    Thanks for the info, and I will let her know. We may need to pay cash for the mammogram so I wanted to ensure it would show what we needed it to.
     
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