Logic and the Bible

Baloney! None of us think that God is incapable of preserving His word. But I'm not willing to say that all versions have perfectly preserved God's word.

 

Your statement damns God's Holy Bibles: containers for His Holy Written Word(s). And you don't even seem to know what you have done being lost when it comes to the logic of man, let alone the superior logic of God.

Phil 2:6 (Tyndale Bible, 1526)
Which beynge in the shape of god
and thought it not robbery to be
equall with god.

Phillipians 2:6 (KJV1611 Edition):
Who being in the forme of God,
thought it not robbery to bee
equall with God:

Phil 2:6 (KJV1769 family of Editions):
Who, being in the form of God,
thought it not robbery to be
equal with God:

Which of these is right?

 

That's probably the most ridiculous thing I've seen posted on here.

 

Those all say the same thing. They all say that Christ is equal to God. I don't get your point.

I do not "damn" God's holy bibles. That is uncalled for.

 

Phil 2:6 (Tyndale Bible, 1526)
Which beynge in the shape of god
and thought it not robbery to be
equall with god.

Phillipians 2:6 (KJV1611 Edition):
Who being in the forme of God,
thought it not robbery to bee
equall with God:

Phil 2:6 (KJV1769 family of Editions):
Who, being in the form of God,
thought it not robbery to be
equal with God:


Those all say the SAME thing. These translations say something different:


NLT - Phl 2:6 -
Though he was God, he did not demand and cling to his rights as God.


NIV - Phl 2:6 -
Who, being in very nature* God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,
Footnote:
* Or in the form of


ESV - Phl 2:6 -
who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped,


NASB - Phl 2:6 -
who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped,

Which one is right?

 

Show me what you are talking about in your first two statements.

Here are two phrases made by negating two terms:

ever sharp = never dull

ever is opposite never
sharp is opposite dull
but
ever sharp = never dull

I have shown one false example of
// Two opposing ideas cannot both be correct. //
Remember, one only has to prove one exception but one has to prove all examples.

 

OK Ed, I am not going to argue with you, but you are wrong to say I "damn" God's Holy Bibles, and that I dont know what I am doing.

Who are you to make such a self righteous statement?

YOU are the one that is perverting the Word of God.

Do you honestly believe that you have some understanding of the "superior logic of God"?

I gues the rest of us are just "lost" idiots.

Good night ED.

Dont choke on you superiority and righteousness.

 

Again, same meaning. Poor example.

Who, being in very nature* God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,

Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

Which one is right? Are they both the same in your opinion?

 

Phil 2:6 (Tyndale Bible, 1526)
Which beynge in the shape of god
and thought it not robbery to be
equall with god.

Phil 2:6 (KJV1611 Edition):
Who being in the forme of God,
thought it not robbery to bee
equall with God

Baptist4life: // Those all say the SAME thing. //

shape = form?

beynge = being?

god = God?

did 'robbery' mean the same thing in 1568 as it did in 1611?

Baptist4live: // Which one is right? //

Bad question. Here is a better question:

What shall I do about that scripture tomorrow and next week that will make me a better servent of my blessed Lord and Savior: Messiah Iesus ben-Yosheph?

I think even though God made me just like Himself that we (the Triune Ed) shall drop our heavenly rights and strive better to exist (like Jesus) in the servant mode on earth. Of course, we can only do that in the Power and Might of the Lord.


(anybody ever heard of context?)

Phil 2:5-11 (Tyndale Bible, 1526)

5 Let the same mynde be in you that was in Christ Iesu:
6 Which beynge in the shape of god and thought it not robbery to be equall with god.
7 Neverthelesse he made him silfe of no reputacion and toke on him the shape of a servaunte and became lyke vnto men
8 and was founde in his aparell as a man. He humbled him silfe and became obediet vnto ye deeth even the deeth of the crosse.
9 Wherfore god hath exalted him and geve him a name above all names:
10 that in the name of Iesus shuld every knee bowe bothe of thinges in heve and thinges in erth and thinges vnder erth
11 and that all tonges shuld confesse that Iesus Christ is the lorde vnto the prayse of God the father.

in the name of Iesus shuld every knee bowe

Have you bowed (literally or figuratively) before Iesus today? Will you do it tomorrow?

 

Yes, I think I've heard of context.

Does the context change between these versions? No. So why is this particular verse totally different between them????

Are you Jewish?

 

We know God did not make any mistakes on the inspiration and the preservation. Who produced 650+ mistakes – the maximum disagreement on the Gospel of Mark only?

The Inspiration refers to the autographs ONLY. This autographs had NONE of disagreements of wording – ZERO!

 

Wow! I think you need to turn your computer off and go to bed, you're getting crazy! :wavey:

 

Over-educated idiot?

 

Double WOW!

 

Amen! Preach it!

 

// Who are you to make such a self righteous statement? //

I've been damned by Agnostics and Atheists using the same terms. The condemnation of a lightweight will hardly make any difference. As for 'self-righteous' all my righteous comes from Jesus & i probably lose most of it during the day.

Ed: // ... lost when it comes to the logic of man ... //

1. Although I said this after posting data from ajg1959, I was NOT speaking to ajg1959 ONLY (but if ;the shoe fits, wear it)

2. I've been praying for bro aig1959 since daily since July 2007 when I first met him. That means over 600 times I've said something like:

May all God's best blessings come upon Ajg1959, his family, and his ministry. May all this be done so that we might all give all the more honor and Glory unto our Blessed Hebrew Lord and Savior: Messiah Iesus ben-Yoseph. Amen.

3. 'Lost' can mean several different things:
3a. lost = physically unable to determine their location
3b. lost = temporally disorientated (don't know what time it is)
3c. lost = spiritually disorientated (aka: hell bound)
3d. lost = unable to tell where a person is with regard to the logic of man
3e. (other alternatives exist; this is suggerstive not definiateive)

Obviously (since I stated it) I was using the 3d definition, which I stated NOT the 3c definition. l That is why I selected the world I selected.

ajg1959: // OK Ed, I am not going to argue with you, but you are wrong to say I "damn" God's Holy Bibles, and that I dont know what I am doing. //

You sir are wrong to 'kick against the pricks'. Please don't get on God's case cause he sent me to convict/convince you to serve him better. You really need to "not consider equality with God something to be grasped" but yield to the Lord, take up your cross (goodness knows you have enough of those around) daily and serve the Lord. Just proves the old saying: the bit dog yelps the loudest. Anybody who reads me is who I was talking to (and when I point at you-all what I keep seeing is those three fingers pointing back at myself - can't seem to duck them . I hope you, MR 1959, sleep well; I (Ed1943) seem to be up all night?? Interesting, I had been a Christian half my life when Bro Ajg1959 was born Does not mean a thing, I manipulate numbers instead of picking my nose TeeHee

Amy G.: you picked a much better scripture to talk about than I could have ever picked. Thank you Sister Amy.G. This scripture appears to be different, but study it (in the context) and the variations PRESERVED FOR US make it much easier to understand. Jesus could have DEMANDED HIS RIGHTS and ignored us, but He didn't. WE (each of us reading or writing) can demand our rights, but should not. In fact, we are commanded in verse Phil 2:5 to have the same frame of mind that Jesus Had - don't demand our heavenly rights in Christ Jesus but do the work that Messiah Yeshua (or Lord and Savior) has for us to do.