Ok - a brief explaination is in order. I'm hoping to one day teach at a seminary, and looking to get a PhD to enable me to do so. I'm located in the Midwest, and looking to go to a solid, fundamental seminary. I've grown in GARBC churches, but I'm not closed to other viewpoints on lesser issues (In fact I welcome it, it would enable me to engage my professor and classmates). Pre-mil, Pre-Trib, perhaps leaky Dispensational, calvinistic (hate all these labels - don't we all - I've dumped them here for your reference). I want a degree that will prepare me for PhD work, but not keep me in school forever. I'm also inclined towards a degree that is no-frills - meaning no forced "how to" classes (like preaching, evangilizing, etc). And definitely no forced clases like learn your style of leadership, church growth, engaging a post modern culture, etc. I'm looking for a good time of hard study and learning. What can you recommend? I'm assuming I would have to rule out online or distance learning degrees (I'm open to them, but would prefer in class at seminary) in order to get a PhD? Is this true? My real question is, however, what seminary to go to? I don't want to move far away (indeed this is becoming the biggest obstacle, even more than money). What seminary is near Toledo, Oh and has the following charateristics, in order of importance: 1) Has solid ciriculum, as ranted on above 2) is close 3) Has a MA in Theology, Mdiv or something similar, that would enable PhD work, and still allow completition in 2 years or less (think <65 hours) 4) Is affordable (considering I paid 250 an hour for undergrad, and I'd be thrilled just to have someone inform me of something that met the first three - cost is a non-issue) 5) Has your alls recommendation :tongue3: I've looked at alot, here's a few I'm seriously considered, with pros, cons: DTS - too far +Chafer's Systematic Theology was wonderful Liberty - too far? +Affordable +Dean seems interesting +Ma and Mdiv in three years Grand Rapids +close -expensive +Seems like a rigiorus program -64 hours for Ma! BBC +the crown jewel of GARBC (lol) +close? -no Ma, only Mdiv and pastor oriented Anything I've missed? I know I'm not asking much, lol, but I was hoping to start this fall. That's quickly becoming (and has become, welcome to August :-( ) an impossibility, so now I'm shooting for Spring. One last note, I'm got a secular undergrad degree, and no formal biblical training in Greek, Hebrew, etc.