Louisiana Governor Refuses Federal Takeover of Evacuation.

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  1. carpro

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    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/03/AR2005090301680.html

    Behind the scenes, a power struggle emerged, as federal officials tried to wrest authority from Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco (D). Shortly before midnight Friday, the Bush administration sent her a proposed legal memorandum asking her to request a federal takeover of the evacuation of New Orleans, a source within the state's emergency operations center said Saturday.

    The administration sought unified control over all local police and state National Guard units reporting to the governor. Louisiana officials rejected the request after talks throughout the night, concerned that such a move would be comparable to a federal declaration of martial law. Some officials in the state suspected a political motive behind the request. "Quite frankly, if they'd been able to pull off taking it away from the locals, they then could have blamed everything on the locals," said the source, who does not have the authority to speak publicly.
     
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    I hope that the Democrats' ardent call for an investigation ends up biting them in the behind. This may turn out to be just a Democrat governor trying her best to make a Republican president look bad. Or trying her best to keep Bush from looking good. If that is the case, as the article states, and Blanco used this tragedy as a political football, she should hang.
     
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    I would remind you all of the principle of Federalism at stake here. I am not a supporter of the governor of Louisiana. However, stop for a moment and think about what you are positing. Would you take the same stand if the governor was a Republican and the President was Kerry or (second term) Gore?
     
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    The main reason I posted this, Squire , was in response to other members who believe Bush should have ignored the law in order to save lives.

    When he obeyed the law and made the request for federal oversight of the evacuation, he was turned down, as you can see.

    Imagine what the fallout would be if he had ignored the law as others suggest.
     
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    Squire, if I was faced with the same situation, and my local and state governments were falling down on the job as much as these jokester politicians are, I wouldn't care who the locals or federals in charge were, as long as they could get the job done.

    The local and state officials have really dropped the ball on this, and they can not seem to recover it. For the sake of those thousands, and even perhaps millions, of lives affected by the ineffectiveness of the Louisiana politicians, I believe it to be the duty of the federal government to intervene and save our fellow citizens.

    When the activity, or inactivity, of the local governments is actually leading to the deaths of many people, which it is, it then is certainly Constitutional for the feds to come in and clean up the mess. Sometimes, the federal government must protect us, even from our own local and state governments.
     
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    Once that camel gets his nose under the tent, it's gonna be well nigh impossible to keep the rest of his body out.

    This is a matter best left to the local citizens to rectify as they see fit.
     
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    There is plenty of blame to go around at all levels. I think all levels of government, Local and State and Federal stumbled. I will add though, I think the US Coast Guard deserves an A+ for their quick action in saving so many. [​IMG] I think the US Coast Guard has not received proper credit and should be applauded and thanked.
     
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    Semper Paratus/Always Ready. [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    Once that camel gets his nose under the tent, it's gonna be well nigh impossible to keep the rest of his body out.

    This is a matter best left to the local citizens to rectify as they see fit.
    </font>[/QUOTE]So then, what, in your opinion, is the proper role of the federal government, other than butting out of everything?

    It's paramount purpose is the protection of the citizens of the United States of America.

    If this is not a case where the local and state governments are not, will not, and can not protect their citizens, then the federal government has the Constitutional responsibility to step in and do so. If it can not do that, then it really serves no purpose other than to collect and waste our tax dollars.
     
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    When I was a child, my father told me, whether you like a President or Governor or not, once they are elected they are no longer "Democrat" or "Republican" or "from this city" or "from that State." They represent the ENTIRE group they are meant to care for.

    So - yes, if Houston Texas or Galveston and the surrounding cities were wiped out by a huge hurricane, and Texans were starving to death and dieing of thirst or from lack of medication or drowning in nursing homes because help could not reach them, I would want the governor to declare martial law and surrender to the Federal Government control of the situation.

    EVEN if the President were Hilary Clinton.

    The people SHOULD matter more than the political games.

    Besides, you can offer "limited" control. You can specify - the state surrenders control and containment of this disaster to federal agencies. Without saying, The state surrenders control of the whole state."
     
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    Can you just imagine what this country would be like if Congress would NOT worry about Dem or Rep but what would make this country even greater?!

    I get so sick of how the Congress is more about their party than it is the people! :mad:
     
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    Lorrie,

    I'm old enough to remember when once a man was elected to Congress he fought for his state, not his party.
     
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    TS,

    Ahhhhh, the good old days. [​IMG]
     
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    I believe many of the deaths in New Orleans rest squarely on the shoulders of the mayor and the governor. Never have I seen two officials with such major responsibility fail so miserably in the performance of their primary responsibility to protect their citizens. It would be different if it had been a surprise or random occurrence. These 2 bozos had at least 4 days warning and they failed to act.
    :mad:
     
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    I think that we all should concentrate on the rescue and rebulding at this point. Lets wait until the investigation when it will allcome out. Right now there seem to be alot of movie stars and rappers who are calling George Bush a criminal. Thats not right. This was an unusual situation that no one was prepared for unfortunately.
     
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    gestapo FEMA in action:
    http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2005/060905femasabotaging.htm
     
  17. LorrieGrace

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    This sounds like lunacy.
     
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    "Team Bush" still refusing international aid. Russian rescue crews on four cargo planes with helicopters on board sit idle at an airport near Moscow waiting for green light, Cuba has 1500 doctors with 26 tons of medical supplies and Bush is refusing them entry to U.S., Venezuelan disaster rescue teams wait for a "go," Dominican Republic crews with hurricane recovery experience wait and wait and wait. It's the same scene at airports around the world. Meanwhile, FEMA turned back 8 buses from Washington, DC that were to bring 400 evacuees to the DC Armory which has been stockpiled with just about every need. The Bush regime has finally reached the crescendo of evil.

    And why is FEMA so incompetent? It was turned into a political patronage agency by Bush for Bush's campaign lickspittles. This from a disaster recovery specialist with inside contacts at FEMA:

    Mike Brown was Joe Allbaugh's college roommate. (Allbaugh was Bush's first FEMA director). Allbaugh is now a consultant who makes tons of money for greasing the skids for companies to get business with the federal government in Iraq and with FEMA. Note to Federal law enforcement. You might want to investigate the relationship between Allbaugh and IEM, Dewberry, and URS -- the companies that took $500,000 to develop a "Catastrophic Hurricane Disaster Plan for New Orleans & Southeast Louisiana," a plan they never delivered and a project for they fraudulently included James Lee Witt Associates as one of their team partners. The sleazy revolving door spewing out money spins very fast with the Bush administration.

    Mike Brown had absolutely no experience in disaster management. When Allbaugh became director in January, 2001, he politically cleansed FEMA of anyone who was associated with outgoing director James Lee Witt, who had done an excellent during the Clinton administration. Allbaugh was charged with cleaning out of FEMA because of the neocon desire to rid the Federal bureaucracy of FEMA and replace it with charitable giving as a means of disaster relief.

    So Allbaugh's first priority was to gut FEMA. This became an even greater priority after the Democrats (especially Joe Lieberman) forced Bush to create a Department of Homeland Security. FEMA was rolled into DHS. Allbaugh was caught by the Government Accountability Office (GAO) using the FEMA Boeing 737 aircraft for private purposes, including numerous personal trips to Florida and political trips around the country. The Republican National Committee reimbursed FEMA for the political junkets, but the embarrassing trips hit the pages of the New York Times and Allbaugh chose at that time to leave and set up his own consulting business. He left without any pressure from the White House.

    In early 2001, the International Arabian Horse Association fired current FEMA director Mike Brown as its executive secretary after a non-productive period of employment. Admittedly, Mike Brown had spent a large part of 2000 campaigning for Bush rather than doing his job, but the bottom line for the horse association was that Brown neglected his duties and day to day responsibilities.

    Brown was lucky. His old college roommate, Allbaugh, appointed Brown as his number 2 within days of his firing by the horse association. This cozy relationship was noted throughout the Allbaugh period. Upon Allbaugh's departure, Brown was designated by Bush to succeed him as FEMA director. He is called "Brownie" by Bush.

    "Brownie" has few supporters in FEMA. In fact, the general commentary is that he lacks basic organizational and management skills and he is a ------- artist, not a leader.

    http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/
     
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    I don't understand why the govt wants to sabatage NO.
     
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    Look who is posting this, Lorrie.

    I am more apt to believe that aliens caused the hurricane than I am to believe this garbage, with absolutely no proof whatsoever, about Bush and FEMA sabotaging the relief effort.

    pnut should be ashamed for posting such things.

    I have personally experienced FEMA working in conjunction with local officials after a disaster. None of this junk is true.
     

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