Lydia's salvation - Acts 16v14

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  1. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    As a precursor let me state that I do not consider myself a Calvinist and ask this question in the spirit of sincere inquiry.

    In my devotions this morning I read the account of Lydia's salvation. It is said of Lydia in the KJV that she "...worshiped God, heard us: whose heart the Lord opened, that she attended unto the things which were spoken of Paul." The NKJV says that "the Lord opened her heart to receive the things spoken by Paul."

    I would appreciate your thoughts. The Calvinist view is obvious here. Altough your comments and refutations are welcomed, I am really looking for the thoughts of those who would hold to a non-Calvinist view of the sovereignty of God.

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    Roger,

    Good question.

    The Calvinist assumes that Lydia was born Totally Depraved and therefore CANNOT respond in faith to Paul's message and thus must be made "open" by God.

    There is a big problem with that interpretation of this scripture. Total Depravity means:

    All people are conceived in sin and are born children of wrath, unfit for any saving good, inclined to evil, dead in their sins, and slaves to sin; without the grace of the regenerating Holy Spirit they are neither willing nor able to return to God, to reform their distorted nature, or even to dispose themselves to such reform. -Canon of Dort Article 3

    Does that sound like a person who "worshiped God?" Many Calvinists seem to overlook the fact that Lydia was a God worshiper and thus couldn't have been the lost Totally Depraved person that they assume she is. She clearly had faith in God and worshiped Him. God in return prepared her to recieve God's message through Paul.

    This cannot mean what Calvinists think it means.
     
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    I tend to be a bit simplistic when it comes to these things. It appears to me that Lydia was seeking the Lord;in response to her seeking God sent Paul to preach and He sent the Holy Spirit to allow her to comprehend what Paul said. She then had a choose, accept ot reject what she heard and understood.

    It can't be that easy :confused: .
     
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    C4K,

    I never would have taken you for an Arminian. With the way you love the scripture, I just assumed you were a Calvinist... ;)

    But, then, there is that picture of you in front of the Eifel Tower. That explains it. The French must have corrupted your mind. :D

    (Note: I am just kidding around here. And no, I won't put my disclaimer in big bold letters at the top of the post.)

    Joseph Botwinick
     
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    I think she did more than just seek the Lord. The scripture says that she "worshiped God."
     
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    Did God open her heart or not?

    And if so does he open all hearts of those who hear the Word?

    And how do we know that's true if you answer yes to the second question?
     
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    Thanks for the morning chuckle. my friend [​IMG] .
     

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