Major Restaurants Remove Christmas Spirit

I agree, one trip is not enough...
We first have to build a relationship with them...

And that can take many, many trips....

 

Um...wouldn't Christ's resurrection be an even more wonderful season for mankind...the defeat of death?

 

Christ's birth was important, sure, but His death and resurrection is what made eternal life for mankind possible, not His birth.

 

To Pastor Paul: yes. But they defend the ACLU.....

LOL, a "Giving Tree Holiday Program"? Have a Merry Secular Holiday, "Erich".

 

I'll be totally up front about the fact that I can't stand the ACLU, but I did do a little research as to whether they are attempting to make churches remove crosses, and here is a statement from the website:

Now, that's not to say that I really believe that they aren't working behind the scenes to find a way to make it illegal for churches to display crosses, but if I go to far into that, someone will accuse me of being a conspiracy theorist. :laugh: Suffice to say that for now their party line is that it is okay for churches to have a cross, but not for a government building to display the Ten Commandments. To which I say I'm glad they ain't found my town yet! Our courthouse just put up the ten commandments on the courthouse lawn a month or two ago. Take that ACLU!

As to the Christmas decorations, I agree that it is part of the slow, subtle shift in removing Christ completely from our society. Unfortunately, there is not much that can be done about it, and I'm not going to let it ruin my Christmas celebration. Let's face it...if you've read the Book, you know it's going to get a lot worse for a long time before it gets better, but you also know that in the end, we win! :jesus: :thumbs:

 

But suppose for a moment it were to be made illegal to erect cross signs, Christmas decorations and the like, would it really make any difference to biblical Christianity? The bible does not tell us to use the cross as a decoration, or to put up trees and lights, tinsel and glitter, to remember the Saviour's birth. Now I am not saying that such decorations are wrong, just that they are not an essential part of being a Christian.

As I said in an earlier reply on this thread, it is wrong to suppose that all the millions of people, restaurants and other businesses who do put up lights, streamers, holly, ivy, mistletoe and the rest at this time of year are doing so to honour the birth of the Messiah.

 

Heh, you both are right. Still, I say:

http://stoptheaclu.com/

The do look they're off this Grinch thing for now, cowering to Bill O'Reilly yet again. And CAIR, too, of course.:thumbs:

Why we call them the Anti-American Communist Lawyers' Union.:thumbs:

I don't know about the UK, David Lamb, but around here there have been all those tacky lights up everywhere for over a month already.

But I don't they're necessary to mark the nativity, nor are they blasphemous - but if it bothers the righteous dude about the lame-o Olive Gahden's calling Christmas a "holiday", he has every right to compalin and/or not patronize those said establishments.

Remember Pastor Paul, even the Religious Left as well as the ACLU does not tolerate intolerance to their intolerance. And we all know Jesus is the reason for this season.

:jesus:

Have a Merry Christmas.

 

Do any of you recall reading or seeing The Dr Seuss story 'How the Grinch Stole Christmas' or The Christmas Carol by Charles Dickens. Do you recall the point of these? Compare the points with the points mentioned in these previous eight pages of attack and counter attack.

I personally think that if it is acceptable for the Islams to require an airport in Chicago to set aside special rooms for their worship then it is fine for anyone to mention to a store owner about the lack of 'Christmas' music or decorations.

I can not really debate all the points made but I always did enjoy the music and decorations that used to be displayed/played. I even actually bought my relatives and friends presents (GADS!).

For store owners/operators this time of year has become a very economic time of year especially the smaller operators that are enabled to continue for the next year.
So from this point of view if I was a store operator I would do everything I could to encourage people to get a 'happy' attitude in my place and perhaps buy some of my product. That would include music and decorations and saying Merry Christmas to all my patrons. By the way I was small operator (had three stores in Calif at one time) and did do this and not a single person complained.

I am sure all of you can 'cut' this post faster that someone can cut a poor tree from the forest but don't bother please!

Merry Christmas to all and may the Lord bless you this coming year.

 

How are you construing what webdog said as "spin"? Spin typically refers to something in a negative light, and I don't quite get the negative here that you obviously do. Inconsequential, yes. Negative, not so much.

Easter is probably more important, but you can't have Easter without Christmas, so I really don't see the point of debating it. An equally compelling debate might be to discuss how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

 

I didn't recall seeing "spin" as a gift. Is that in 2 Opinions 3:1?

Hey, I'm just doing what you claim to do... "I am simply expressing my heart, right, wrong, dumb, or whatever"

If you don't agree with that, and thinking I'm trying to "spin" something into something negative...then that's on you.

 

Let my respond to your post using your own words again...

Some of the folks I've encountered on the BB have been highly judgmental and extremely opinionated, and that has been disappointing. If a person comes to this board and expresses their heart and in turn get their heart trampled on, than there is something seriously wrong with those who monitor this forum.

I guess this refers to everybody but you, huh? That's called hypocrisy. I wasnt' splitting hairs, nor trying to be argumentative. I see Christ's defeat of death as to what leads to my eternal life, not His birth (in regards to a particular moment in time, season as you call it. I never disagreed that Christ's birth was important). You disagree, which if fine. Other than that, we don't need a 6 paragraph post on how you are such the BB martyr, and how I am the BB-bb (bad boy).

 

And the beat goes on . . .

Why does someone come and make snide remarks, say they don't like name calling, then call webdog "webgod"; say they don't like confrontation, yet attack passive-aggressively; complain about others opinions, yet it is a debate board. There are fellowship fora here, but I doubt you'd be happy there either. You apparently want to spout your nonsense, then attack everyone who disagrees or calls you on your ad hominems, attacks, and accusations. Then you can't stand the heat and go start another thread to mount your personal vendetta.

Webdog and I often disagree, but we do so without the personal attacks. You are behaving badly for any human being, much less one who fancies himself a "pastor".

 

Wow! I sure do HOPE that was a typo!

 

Please everyone, break it up now

 

Everybody dance now!

Oh, wait. It's a Baptist board! :laugh: