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Discussion in '2003 Archive' started by Istherenotacause, Apr 4, 2003.

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  1. Istherenotacause

    Istherenotacause New Member

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    I know the sentiment was to get back to the original thread, but I can't help but reply with my two cents worth.

    I was a pothead for twenty years, from 12 to 32 yrs of age. Then I got gloriously saved.

    On the way home from my pot buddy's house, just after buying some pot, the Holy Ghost smote my heart and told me how stupid I was to be trying to get them to go to church with me, right after buying some from them.

    Before you rake me over the coals, this happened a whole two weeks after I got saved. Also you have to take into account, I had smoked pot every day since I was 16 when I went to work full time.

    When the Lord saves us, He does take away that sinful indulgence that was keeping/seperating us from the love of God, but He isn't through with us either. He's STILL working on me! I've been saved for ten years now, I haven't smoked anything, including cigarettes since the first three months I've been saved. Alcohol went first, just before I got saved, about an hour. Pot went second, about two weeks. Cigarettes went next, about 3 months. Many other changes the Lord is making in me, you see, repentence is a continual action, not a sudden and complete 180 degree turn around many will describe, but it is just as much an impact when you first get saved. It's when people haven't grown any in the past ten years that scares me! And we all have room to grow! (not marijuana, pardon the pun!)

    Brother Ricky

    (Praise the Lord! He that hath begun a good work in you, shall perform it until the day of Jesus Christ!)

    So here's the Poll question: Can a person continue in sin, that grace may abound?

    Smoking pot is a sin, it is something that seperates us from that which God can and will work in our spirit. The biblical answer is: God Forbid! Romans 6
     
    #1 Istherenotacause, Apr 4, 2003
  2. SaggyWoman

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    Let me move this to theological debate. Thanks.
     
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  3. Terry_Herrington

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    Smoking marijuana is so similar to being under the influence of alcohol I cannot see how anyone could condone its use, especially Christians. :confused:

    Any Christian who would say that it is alright with God for them to indulge in pot smoking isn't paying attention to what God really says.
     
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  4. Istherenotacause

    Istherenotacause New Member

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    Quote from Terry-Herrington

    "Smoking marijuana is so similar to being under the influence of alcohol I cannot see how anyone could condone its use, especially Christians."

    Terry, even though some marijuana is much stronger in it's effect, it cannot be compared to the effects of alcohol. Alcohol is much worse than any marijuana I ever smoked, that wasn't laced with some other chemical.

    I do NOT condone marijuana smoking in any degree.

    "Any Christian who would say that it is alright with God for them to indulge in pot smoking isn't paying attention to what God really says."

    I hope you were paying attention to what I was saying. I'm not so sure some one who indulges in pot smoking or condones it, is really even a Christian. The Lord dealt with me in what I would consider a short time (two weeks) after I got saved.
     
    #4 Istherenotacause, Apr 7, 2003
  5. Johnv

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    Is there any purpose to using marijuana for any reason other than to get high? No. (medical reasons excepted).
     
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  6. Mike McK

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    What ? ? ?

    The two are completely different.
     
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    "I beseech ye therfore brethern by the mercies of GOD, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice HOLY and ACCEPTABLE unto GOD which is your REASONABLE SERVICE." "KJV"

    GOD BLESS AMERICA [​IMG]
     
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  8. post-it

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    Alcohol is legal, pot isn't. They aren't the same. See Romans 13 about following the law.

    Some Christians will continue to sin for various reason, it's not good for them and they will continue to pay the price in this life for such actions, but they are saved and will not suffer hell because of their own fleshly weakness. Many Christians are in Jail right now for some really bad decisions, that doesn't take their salvation away.
     
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    QUOTE: "Smoking marijuana is so similar to being under the influence of alcohol I cannot see how anyone could condone its use, especially Christians. "
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    QUOTE: "What ? ? ?
    The two are completely different. "


    Doctrinally speaking, they're not different in the least. No matter how you size it, neither are acceptable in God's eyes. To separate them is to split hairs.
     
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  10. Johnv

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    Doctrinally speaking, they're not different in the least. No matter how you size it, neither are acceptable in God's eyes. To separate them is to split hairs.

    I totally disagree with you in regards to alcohol and doctrine. Come to think of it, I don't think that alcohol is a doctrinal issue at all.

    But this thread is about marijuana, not alcohol.
     
    #10 Johnv, Apr 7, 2003
  11. cwclugston

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    I do not smoke pot and I never have; and if I were sitting in Congress or my state legislature, I would not vote to legalize it for anything other than medicinal purposes.

    Having said that, I can't say that there aren't some advantages to legalization. We could tax it and have a legal age of 18 for purchasing it. But, just like some of the problems we have in our society with booze, the disadvantages far outweigh any advantages of legalization.

    Bill C.
     
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  12. Mike McK

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    But are we required to follow unjust laws? Specifically, are we required to follow unConstitutional laws?
     
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  13. Mike McK

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    The way he worded it, I think he meant that they were the same in the buzz you get, and they're not.

    Morally, to intentionally seek intoxication is wrong and the same principle applies, but I don't think that's what he was talking about.
     
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  14. Mike McK

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    It needs to be legalized, not because we could regulate it (which would be substituting one wrong for another) but because it's the right thing to do.
     
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  15. Istherenotacause

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    If this were the means to establish law through the democratic process, "injesting" marijuana for any prupose other than that ascribed by law legalizing it for medicinal purposes only, so far it would be considered sin. 71% says it's sin 29% says no.


    [​IMG] Please give reasons either way, I've noticed more votes for it not being sin than there are replies equal to it. [​IMG]

    I base my stance solely upon first hand experience correalated with the Word of God. If you had asked the question prior to the two weeks after I got saved, I would have told you,"No, it's not a sin." :eek:

    Brother Ricky.
     
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  16. Terry_Herrington

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    Mike McK,

    I'm not sure if you were talking about what I meant when you referred to the "buzz" from marijuana. Actually, I was talking about the fact that drugs used exclusively for the purpose of getting "high" is wrong spiritually.

    I have a little experience, in my past, with drugs, and I know, without a shadow of a doubt, that using substances, such as drugs, to alter a person's state of consciousness is wrong. It opens up someone to satanic influences and lowers inhibitions that normally would not occur.

    If anyone here thinks that drugs or alcohol (which is a drug) are alright to use, other than medically (and even then they should be used only as a last resort), they are, IMO, wrong. Believe me, we should be as sober minded as possible in this world. It is difficult enough to stay straight without the evil influence of drugs. If fact, if a person finds themselves even contemplating the using of mind altering substances, they need to fall on their knees and seek God immediately. Treat these mind altering substances as you would a poisonous snake. Avoid them at all cost.
     
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  17. new man

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    The use of marijuana as with any mind altering substance including legally prescribed psychotropic medications such as Prozac, Zoloft, etc., may well fall into the "pharmakeia" category. The Greek word pharmakeia is the root we get our modern word "pharmacy" from which is translated "witchcraft" in Galatians 5 and "sorceries" in Revelation 9 and 18, and is closely linked to magic. It is now apparent I was a sorcerer for a number of years prior to my conversion.


    Pharmakeia


    Russ [​IMG]
     
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  18. Baptist Believer

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    So are you saying that those who use Prozac and Zoloft to treat depression are engaging in sorcery???

    I certainly hope not!
     
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  19. Artimaeus

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    I have never smoked pot, it wasn't in my high school and was only mildly in my college (How old am I anyway?) I oppose legalization. There is nothing good in it either the smoke itself or the THC (except in rare medical circumstances). I have been legally blind all my life and pot wouldn't help me a bit, but, I can assure you that if it would help me I would try it, legal or not. I realize that things that are different aren't the same, but, things that are similar are similar. :D
     
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  20. new man

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    I am saying by definition those drugs "fit" what the word pharmakaei means. I will address this issue later as I have to go to work now. [​IMG]

    Russ &lt;&gt;&lt;
     
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