Mary Jo Kopechne Can Finally Rest in Peace!!!

Yes!.............And any other view is just sick.

 

No, there are many other issues that are important to our nation. For example, what if there were someone running for president who was adamantly against abortion, but also wanted to dismantle our military defenses? Besides, even if RvW was overturned, the issue would just go back to the states. It would not immediately stop legal abortions.

 

Interesting choice of examples. IMO usually those who are adamantly for abortion also want to dismantle our military.

 

Who on this board is "adamantly for abortion?" I don't think I've seen anyone with that position.

 

Alatide, you really should learn to slow down and read what is actually written.

I did not say that anyone "on this board" is adamantly for abortion.

 

OK, good. There are many that are "adamantly in favor of war, however."

 

OK, I was extremely critical of Kennedy...and I do think he got of very easy on this issue.

However...Christians claim Scripture as authority over matters of faith and practice...so...

The idea of someone "being able to rest in peace" simply isn't spiritual. Mary Jo Kopechne did not need a trial, conviction, etc., to "rest in peace." I know it was a figure of speech, but IMO we should be careful about propagating incorrect theology in how we describe things.

God is a God of justice. This has all been taken care of; we can rest assured about that.

 

John, this article from Piper solidified my stance, which I will give after I quote Piper...

Here is my view.

We elect politicians to advance our nation. We expect them to be men and women of great character.. after all they are representing us in this world. If they refuse to stand up for the most innocent among us, the unborn, why would I expect them to stand up for my rights?

A person that doesn't value unborn life is only a power grabber.

A person that tramples on babies lives just so they can advance up the political ladder does not have the dignity, or character it takes to represent me. The value placed on human life is directly tied to the person's valor.

And before anyone says,, you support Capital Punishment, and War...
Let me say, yes, I do.. but both of those are ways of deterring the destruction of innocent life...

A person executed by capital punishment has destroyed an innocent life.
A just War is started in retaliation to the destruction of innocent life.
It is called Justice...

But to just slay innocent babies, and support this in order to get people's votes indicates to me, that this person is a warped individual.. and most likely will be a very corrupt politician.

If a person doesn't value human life.. .they shouldn't be in the position to lead human life.

 

Irrefutable :jesus:

Excellent points and biblically solid!

 

RvW is a secondary issue. Any man or woman who defends abortion is God's enemy. I for one do not want to be yoked together through my vote to anyone who is God's enemy.

Say RvW gets overturned, praise God, then the issue goes to the states. So what? Is abortion still murder? Yes! And the fight for innocent life continues on. Through capital punishment, through war and through voting. The issue is 'does the man or woman you support, support the murder of innocent life'. If 'yes' then do not yoke up with them. They are God's enemy.

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YATDIAAD = Yet Another Thread Derailed Into Another Abortion Discussion.

 

Don't you know everything in the world revolves around abortion?

Like I heard it said, "Republicans believe life begins at conception and ends at birth!"

 

Can you name one republican who is against caring for infants, children, teenagers, adults and elderly?

I know you can name quite a few democrats who don't care about the unborn and some who would rather the weak and old just die and not be a burden as Obama wants in his death care program.

btw Robert, do you know slaughtering babies in the womb is one of the things listed in the seven things God hates? Anyone supporting abortion is an enemy of God.

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I am always blessed when the truth ends a debate with a "YATDIAAD". It would be easier for you to get on God's side of this abortion issue, especially knowing there is a judgment even Christians must face before God.

Jam 2:13 For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.


Does your vote show mercy to all including the unborn or is your vote selective and more expedient to your on personal pleasures and maybe your pocketbook? Just wondering.

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Not so... we also value the life of those born... even those that Obama voted to kill (the failed abortions)...

 

Then why do you defend RvW? Allow it to be overturned.. I mean if it won't change anything, overturn it, and see what happens... right?

If women can get legal abortions after RvW, then why do they fight so hard to keep it?

 

Not derailed.. .Kennedy was a champion for abortion...

He didn't value Mary Jo's life.. he didn't value babies' lives...

See, the way a person values life speaks of that person's character.. which is why a person should not be allowed to lead our nation if they disvalue any human life.

 

I'm not a Republican.

I think your statement should be: "Christians believe life begins at conception because this is a biblically supported view."

It's not just about Kennedy's pro-choice views and efforts, but the deep lack of intergrity and apparently remorse for how he behaved at Chappaquidick.

 

The senators actions the next morning may have been an illustrative example of having been in an alcohol "blackout".. He had a well known problem with these blackouts, on many occasions...