Masons? Good or bad?

Where was this statement inserted? Was it in the upper echelons or at meetings or where? Did all Mason's have to make this assertion?

I'm inclined to believe all Church's have Mason's on the rolls which you usually don't know until they die and they ask to come do their rituals.

 

The Masons do not profess any religion as a group, but in practice they teach Gnostic-New Age type stuff in the advanced degrees. Their initiation rituals are pagan, often using the names of and re-enacting the stories of Egyptian gods.

Also, in Islamic countries, they have a Koran on the altar; in Buddhist countries, they have Buddhist texts on the altar. They are not Christian friendly though they love to have professing Christians as Masons. It's very deceptive.

Here is some info from NAMB:
http://www.4truth.net/site/c.hiKXLbPNLrF/b.2950171/k.A6A3/Freemasonry.htm


Christian ministries made up of former Masons and reaching out with info to warn others:

Ex-Masons for Jesus
http://www.emfj.org/

Eph. 5.11 Ministries
http://www.ephesians5-11.org/

Order of Former Freemasons
http://www.formermasons.org/

John Ankerberg has lots of material on Freemasonry. Do a search on the site or contact them for info:
http://www.ankerberg.com/

 

Masons are a mixed bag, but you cannot argue with the good work done by their Shriners Hospitals for burned children.

 

I'm only on page 1 and am answering the OP.

I have not fully studied on the Masons, but I'm not comfortable with them.

In my own experience, they were quite rude----no wait, that was the Shriners. Nevermind.

I was surprised when watching the last season of the Andy Griffith Show, Andy wore one of those hats---maybe his was Shriners, too? I don't really know.

 

Wait, so Masons and Shriners are the same thing?

 

Yes, same group different set.

 

Well in that case, my experience with them left a horrible taste in my mouth (aside from whatever their beliefs are).

You see, my daughter has a physical disability. One day while riding her bike in the parking lot of our home mission, the Shriners stopped by (I can't remember why). The one was watching the kids play and I was watching him. He watched my daughter for a while and I thought he was creepy. Then he walked over to me and asked me where the mother of that poor little child was.

I'll admit I wasn't kind to his pity. It's a fault. I said that I was her mother. He asked what was wrong with her. "Nothing," I replied. He then went off on me about how that I was neglecting my child's proper care and that she should be seeing a Dr. "She IS seeing a DR!" I spat back. He went off again letting me know what a failure of a Mother I was and if I wanted, he would sponsor our daughter for care at their hospital. I assured him I was not in the least bit interested in his offer and bid him good day. He continued to talk but I didn't look up from my book.

Perhaps not one of my brighter moments, but I was not willing to accept his insults.

That's all I have to add about the Shriners.

 

More of the same

I just read all 11 pages. I am upset, that so many people will believe any lie or propaganda about the Masons.

I am a Mason. I have completed the 32d degree of Scottish Rite Masonry. I am also a Shriner. If you want to know about the Masons, you need to go to a Mason, their lodge, and the Grand Lodge in each state.

Masonry is a non-denominational, non-sectarian, inter-faith organization. It is comprised of men from many different and wildly varying religious backgrounds and faiths. It is most definetly NOT a religion, nor is it a substitute for religion.

No person should ever consider that Masonry is evil or satanic. That is absurd. Masonry is a secular men's club, composed of fine and upstanding men, who are carefully screened prior to admittance. Each person must make his own decision to be a Mason, there is no recruiting. Each application must be voted on by the lodge membership. The ballot must be unanimous, one "no" vote, and the candidate is rejected.

There is no salvation or preparation for the afterlife in Masonry. These topics are left to the individual religion of the man, and masonry takes no position on these. Masonry's sole concern, is the relation of Man to his fellow man. Masonry teaches ethics and morality, in a secular context. These teachings are often in the form of a stage play, or instructional drama. Sometimes, the teachings are conducted by lecture, with a slide projector, or other stage props.

The Shrine is club of men who are Masons. Therefore, all Shriners are Masons, but not all Masons choose to join the Shrine. There are over 100 appendant and concordant bodies and groups, affiliated with Masonry. There are co-educational groups, like the Amaranth, and women's only groups, like the "Daughters of the Nile". The Shrine runs a system of 22 orthopaedic and burns hospitals, where all treatment for children is free. The Shrine spinal cord center in Philadelphia, is arguably the finest such center in the world. The Shrine also provides free medical care for cleft lip and palate surgery.

Currently, the combined charitable disbursements of the various masonically-affiliated organizations in the USA are about $2.6 million dollars per day. The wide majority of these disbursements, go to women, children, and people with no connection to Masonry at all. College scholarships, provided by the wolcott foundation, enable many young people to attend college.

I encourage any person who is interested in learning the truth about Masonry, to contact a Mason, or the lodge in his/her community. I will be more than glad to answer any questions, responding with the truth, and without propaganda.

The best site for learning about Masonry, is at

http://www.masonicinfo.com

If you wish to email me directly, [email protected]

 

I have stuied masonry for around 32 years and have found this to be a pattern.Mason in the lower degrees do not have the foggest idea that Masonry is evil but when you are initated into the higher degrees you are told to whom you serve. There are many Masons in the lower degrees and It is amazing how blind they are. Our church will not accept masons unless they agree to quit the lodge and Masonry.

 

I "stepped over" almost 10 years ago when I was 54, I only regret that I wasn't able to do it sooner.

For those people who have to continue working or those who just love their jobs, God bless 'em. If I had had a job that I enjoyed, I'd still be working.

 

Shriners are a subset of Masons.
Not every Mason is a Shriner;
Every Shriner is a Mason.
Shriners are super-masons.
I think.

 

Which is not a good thing.

 

Yep.

Except that they have a secret handshake, secret rituals, another name for God, and some devilish things going on up at the highest degree.

 

George Washington was a devout Mason. He turned out to be pretty good.

 

Prov910...

Could you explain what was meant by that?

Looking at a certain star in the sky???

 

Is being a DeMolay on the same level as being a Free Mason ? Isnt the DeMolay a service fraternity of the same type as Alpha Phi Omega or Chi Omega or such ?

I was almost recruited into the DeMolay back in the early 70's but couldn't remember why I never actually joined.

Been to some of their inductions, though, and have seen some "paddlings" of neophytes. Do they still do that ? Or am I entirely on a different wavelength.

 

Being a Mason would not prevent you from being a good leader or President. But that does not make it compatible with being a Christian, even if GW was a Christian. I've also heard, though I don't know how true it is, that the Masons were somewhat different in those days.

 

I know this is a little off topic, but it's funny you say that. On another thread, someone is arguing that Washington was a Christian, and I'm counterarguing that he was actually deist, but not a Christian (in none of Washington's private writings does he ever reference Christ).

In regards to masons being different back then, they were actually more exclusive then than they are now. They're much more open and secular today than they were.

 

I'm not sure we can know what Washington really believed. I honestly don't really care.

Okay. Well, doesn't change the fact that Masonry is incompatible with Christianity. The So. Baptist Convention should have addressed this years ago. The closest they came, as far as I know, was that it was problematic but it was up to each Christian to decide, or something like that.

Nevertheless, NAMB has excellent material showing how unbiblical Freemasonry is.
http://www.namb.net/atf/cf/{CDA250E8-8866-4236-9A0C-C646DE153446}/Closer_Look_Freemasonry.pdf

http://www.4truth.net/site/c.hiKXLb...onry_and_Christianity__A_Comparison_Chart.htm