Matt Cooper to sing and reveal source in Treasongate.

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  1. ASLANSPAL

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    Edited only because my browser is off the screen! Source - Please use the url code for long links, everyone! My browser thanks you in advance! --L.E.>

    Earlier, Time magazine reporter Matthew Cooper, in an about-face, told Hogan that he would cooperate with a federal prosecutor's investigation into the leak of the identity of CIA operative Valerie Plame. He said he would do so now because his source gave him specific authority to do so.

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    As for Miller, unless she decides to talk, she will be held until the grand jury ends its work in October. The judge speculated that Miller's confinement might cause her source to give her a more specific waiver of confidentiality, as did Cooper's.

    JUDITH MILLER GOES TO JAIL!

    WASHINGTON - A federal judge on Wednesday jailed New York Times reporter Judith Miller for refusing to divulge her source to a grand jury investigating who in the Bush administration leaked an undercover CIA operative's name.

    "There is still a realistic possibility that confinement might cause her to testify," U.S. District Judge Thomas Hogan said of the showdown in a case that has seen both President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney interviewed by investigators.

    Miller stood up, hugged her lawyer and was escorted from the courtroom.

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    So did Karl Rove give Matt a call!? but not Judith?
    Someone on another post said Karl Rove if anything will get a perjury charge..it may look
    as if that is what he is trying to lead it to.imho

    More: Conservative Byron York defends Rove

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    Earlier Craig Crawford was incensed(this was before the Matt Cooper breaking story)
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    Memo to THE SOURCE(s): You are a pathetic coward to let two reporters go to jail -- possibly today -- to protect your outing of Valerie Plame as a CIA undercover agent, just so you could score petty political points against her husband, Bush critic Joe Wilson

    [ July 06, 2005, 09:26 PM: Message edited by: LadyEagle ]
     
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    I understand OldReg when in doubt use the smileys

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    but this is actually a political board for discussion and debate if you haven't noticed ;)


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    Earlier, Time magazine reporter Matthew Cooper, in an about-face, told Hogan that he would cooperate with a federal prosecutor's investigation into the leak of the identity of CIA operative Valerie Plame. He said he would do so now because his source gave him specific authority to do so.

    more:

    As for Miller, unless she decides to talk, she will be held until the grand jury ends its work in October. The judge speculated that Miller's confinement might cause her source to give her a more specific waiver of confidentiality, as did Cooper's.

    JUDITH MILLER GOES TO JAIL!

    WASHINGTON - A federal judge on Wednesday jailed New York Times reporter Judith Miller for refusing to divulge her source to a grand jury investigating who in the Bush administration leaked an undercover CIA operative's name.

    "There is still a realistic possibility that confinement might cause her to testify," U.S. District Judge Thomas Hogan said of the showdown in a case that has seen both President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney interviewed by investigators.

    Miller stood up, hugged her lawyer and was escorted from the courtroom.

    -------------------------------------------------
    So did Karl Rove give Matt a call!? but not Judith?
    Someone on another post said Karl Rove if anything will get a perjury charge..it may look
    as if that is what he is trying to lead it to.imho

    More: Conservative Byron York defends Rove

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblog/archive/byron-york/to-lawrence-odonnell-ho_3730.html#comments

    Earlier Craig Crawford was incensed(this was before the Matt Cooper breaking story)
    source

    Memo to THE SOURCE(s): You are a pathetic coward to let two reporters go to jail -- possibly today -- to protect your outing of Valerie Plame as a CIA undercover agent, just so you could score petty political points against her husband, Bush critic Joe Wilson

    [ July 06, 2005, 09:27 PM: Message edited by: LadyEagle ]
     
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    Perhaps OldRegular has forgotten that Judith Miller wrote articles that supported the claims of WMD's in Iraq by the current administration.

    I haven't...........
     
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    hehehe! BiR, that was a good one;)

    I'm not sure how this will all pan out, but I don't think it's a good idea for a journalist to give up their sources. As much as I'd like to see Rove in jail:) We need checks and balances to keep those in charge honest. Or, to force those in charge to become honest:)
     
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    Rove will never end up in jail. Trust me.
     
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    And he shouldn't at the moment since there has been no proof that he has broken a law.
     
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    Lots and lots of compassion for other sinners such as homosexuals, et al, we read from you, TH, but none for Mr. Rove.

    Figures. Typical liberal. :rolleyes:
     
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    The same could be said about you, Ken.

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    Where have I posted anything about homosexuals like what some liberals are posting about Bush or Rove?

    I haven't said that I wish they were in jail. I haven't accused them of being fascists. And I certainly have not said that I hope they end up in hell. I want all people, including homosexuals, to come to Jesus in repentance and faith.
     
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    Rove of course will reap what he sows.If this toad used reporters to hide his bottom feeding
    hate for Joe Wilson then he deserves to be put right along side Benedict Arnold as a traitor!

    This from Joe Wilson today

    By Joe Wilson

    The sentencing of Judith Miller to jail for refusing to disclose her sources is the direct result of the culture of unaccountability that infects the Bush White House from top to bottom. President Bush’s refusal to enforce his own call for full cooperation with the Special Counsel has brought us to this point. Clearly, the conspiracy to cover up the web of lies that underpinned the invasion of Iraq is more important to the White House than coming clean on a serious breach of national security. Thus has Ms Miller joined my wife, Valerie, and her twenty years of service to this nation as collateral damage in the smear campaign launched when I had the temerity to challenge the President on his assertion that Iraq had attempted to purchase uranium yellowcake from Africa.


    The real victims of this cover-up, which may have turned criminal, are the Congress, the Constitution and, most tragically, the Americans and Iraqis who have paid the ultimate price for Bush’s folly.

    This from Bill Israel a collegue of Roves

    By Bill Israel, Editor & Publisher. Posted July 6, 2005.

    http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/columns/shoptalk_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000973352


    A colleague of Rove argues that the president's adviser is hiding behind the First Amendment and that reporters should not protect him.

    In 99.9 percent of cases I know, journalists must not break the bonds of appropriate confidentiality, to protect their ability to report, and to defend the First Amendment. I've testified in court to that end, and would do so again.

    But the Valerie Plame-CIA case that threatens jail time for reporters from Time and The New York Times this week is the exception that shatters the rule. In this case, journalists as a community have been played for patsies by the president's chief strategist, Karl Rove, and are enabling him to abuse the First Amendment, by their invoking it.

    To understand why this case is exceptional, one must grasp the extent of Rove's political mastery, which became clearer to me by working with him. When we taught "Politics and the Press" together at The University of Texas at Austin seven years ago, Rove showed an amazing disdain for Texas political reporters. At the same time, he actively cultivated national reporters who could help him promote a Bush presidency.

    In teaching with him, I learned Rove assumes command over any political enterprise he engages. He insists on absolute discipline from staff: nothing escapes him; no one who works with him moves without his direction. In Texas, though he was called "the prime minister" to Gov. George W. Bush, it might have been "Lord," as in the divine, for when it came to politics and policy, it was Rove who gave, and Rove who took away.
     
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    You Rove haters really ought to stop with the innuendo and either put up or shut up.

    If Mr. Rove broke a law then indict him.

    If Mr. Rove didn't break a law then stop writing like he did.
     
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    I wasn't referring to homosexuals, Ken.
    Do you have any problem with the fact that Mrs. Wilson was outed by someone? I know that CMG (among others) seemingly have no sympathy for her. What about you? Don't you think it was a despicable act to out a CIA operative?
     
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    That's real Christian of you to call a fellow human being such a name. :rolleyes:
     
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    Frankly, everyone in the press has so muddled up this case that I am simply waiting for the facts as I am tired of the innuendo.

    If something illegal was done then there should be an indictment(s).

    All I see at the moment is piling up on Karl Rove by the anti-Bushies.
     
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    Oh, okay, so did you answer the question?
    Mrs. Wilson was outed in the story by Novak. That is a fact.

    Do you think that it was despicable to out a CIA operative?
     
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    KenH are you just going to stir and act like
    a crybaby ...guess what bush calls him ..I will
    let you Google that one..don't give me your
    self righteous crap when you go around trying
    to intimidate others. Just because
    Kenny poo you don't get your confirmation or
    atta boys..please take your crybaby antics some
    place else..oh by the way have you found bushs
    name for Karl. As for toad I am being very ultra
    conservative and not taking liberty ..a traitor
    deserves worse a person who uses reporters to
    promote his scum politics is a real blossom of a
    fellow ..kinda stinks.

    Spare me the self righteousness Ken..oh btw have
    you found that nickname bush likes to use on
    ol Karl.

    Protect the toad somewhere else or actually discuss protecting him that would be even better.

    Traitor...toad...toad ...traitor ..seems to
    roll off the tongue with me KenH..you are free
    to call the traitor a patriot if you want.

    imho
     
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    It is always wrong to out a CIA operative.
     
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    Shouldn't you have to prove that someone is a traitor before you call him a traitor?
     
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    So, are you ready to say that he should go to jail if it is proven that he is indeed the source?
    Or would you say that it is "giving aid and comfort to the enemy?"
     

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