Matthew 2:15 & Hosea 11:1—how do they correspond?

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  1. Gabriel Elijah

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    I am currently doing a study on the book of Matthew & came across the debate regarding Matt 2:15 use of Hosea 11:1. How do most of you see the connection—or what best explains Matt’s use of the verse----predictive prophecy, sensus plenior, exposition in Judaism, prefigurement typology, analogical correspondence, or something else? I can honestly see various possibilities on this issue & am not dogmatic on any view—so I’d love to see what others think.
     
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    Jesus is The True Israel......The New Exodus and Us In Him,a Holy nation.

    look at Exodus 4:22 Israel is my firstborn Son Mt 3:17
    num21 jn 3:14 Jn6 True Manna jn7 rivers of living water
    Look at Exo.19:4-6 1 Pet 2:9

    Hebrews 3:1-6 Moses gives way to Joshua Heb4:8 8:2 1cor 5:7

    Isa.49:1-8
    Look at the first Exodus as the shadow....the New Exodus as the reality
    Jesus the seed of Abraham,and the elect in Him are now the Israel of God
     
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    So you endorse the typological view. This honestly seems to have a lot of support. But for me personally typology is a difficult concept b/c we can only know what OT historical events/people were types when the NT confirms it. Unfortunately, I think types open the door for criticism (especially from non-Christian scholars) b/c critics can say that the NT author simply picked & choose things from the OT that seemed to support the author’s premise. While I personally don’t discredit typology as a whole—and think its very possible that Matt 2:15 is using Hosea 11:1 as a type—I wish there was more evidence to prove that the exodus from Egypt was a picture of baby Jesus taking flight into Egypt. Although I actually teach that this seems to be a type—it just is not as clear as other types used by NT writers. Regardless, thank you for your input on this difficult subject.
     
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    23It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.....

    this seals the deal.
    forget apostate scholars;
    All scripture is Christ centered.
     
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    Brother Iconoclast-sorry it took so long to respond I’ve been working on some other things lately & haven’t been on BB. But I certainly see your point & agree that all Scripture is Christ centered & that the verse at hand seems to be a kind of Israel-Jesus typology. My initial difficulty with the connection came with Hos 11:1 being about the exodus from Egypt, while Matt is talking about Jesus making a flight into Egypt. However, if Matt had in view the entire event of departure into & out of Egypt then his quote from Hosea would be appropriate. And after further study I’m inclined to believe that this is how the Gospel writer is using the OT text. Thus, the typological analysis would certainly be appropriate. My original post was to work through the options & see if I was missing something based on other possibilities. Although I didn’t get much response to the original question, I spent a little more time on the topic & came to a conclusion very similar to your own—so thank you for taking the time to answer. God Bless!
     
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    There is not much response because sadly the churches have in large part missed what used to be more common knowledge.
    It is a good study even today I came across another verse that helps set the context.
    It not only all fits together, but it helps to understand what was being accomplished.
     
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    That certainly is a good example of typology. When I first began studying the topic of types I was a little hesitant and felt it was something similar to a Bible code where fanatics could just find hidden meanings to biblical text b/c they were reading more into the Scripture than was actually there. But after looking into the subject more I became more convinced of the legitimacy of typology as a whole when it comes to OT-Christ relationships. And in all honesty the topic has begun to fascinate me b/c it demonstrates how God’s hand was in history carrying His plan out to the smallest detail—even giving pictures of many events that would happen in Christ’s life centuries & centuries before they actually happened. Although the fulfillment of OT prophesy in the life of Jesus demonstrates God’s omniscience & omnipotent ability, I think typology does this on a whole other level.
     

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