Mattress Company in Wisconsin Insults Our Soldiers!!

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  1. snrsvdbygrc

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    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,245718,00.html

    Wouldn't it be nice to see this company not be able to sell one more mattress? He obviously has a right to turn the request down, but to insult the soldiers is just uncalled for.

    Well read the rest of the story and you will find out the store owner just happens to be a member of the friendly religion of peace.
     
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    I heard about this a couple of days ago, but wasn't sure it was true.

    Stupid.

    They could have declined the soldiers request without the personal attack.

    Wanna bet the guy that sent the response was not fired. Muslims are generally OK with lying, ya know.:jesus:
     
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    The story said he was fired.
     
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    Would any current or former military professionals comment on this story relevant to the procurement of supplies? Is it common for a sargeant, who is in theater, to have to spend time shopping online for essential supplies for his soldiers?
     
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    A lot of them, in the beginning, had to provide their own body armor. Units amored their own humvees with scrap steel as well.

    Wouldn't camping pads be more practical (light-weight, waterproof) than a mattress pad?
     
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    It said the owner said he was fired. Wanna bet the owner didn't lie?
     
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    If you want something that's not standard issue, you buy it yourself. If you wanted a make or type of body armor other than that supplied by the military, you paid for it yourself.

    No different than 35 years ago.
     
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    The body armor simply wasn't available to all who needed it, but at first the army promised to reimburse those who bought it themselves. When the army finally issued armor to all in combat, soldiers with a different make were forbidden to wear their own (linkie)(linkie2).
     
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    Thanks for the links, but no soldier went into combat without body armor.

    But this is really your subject so why don't you start another thread for it.

    Then we can get these muslim jerks that are the subject of this thread back to the fore.:thumbs:
     
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    http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2004-03-26-body-armor_x.htm

    Republican Congresswoman, notice. The troops still remember when they arrived in combat areas without armor. They remember Rumsfeld lying to them about why he didn't provided them with the armor, too.
     
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    You are wrong.

    http://www.defenselink.mil/Transcripts/Transcript.aspx?TranscriptID=3582

    Q: Up on the Hill here a number of your officials have been peppered with questions about why there’s been a lack of body armor and I ask you now in retrospect, was there a breakdown in the planning for post-war Iraq that failed to anticipate the types of hostilities U.S. troops would encounter and the types of equipment they would need. Body armor is pretty elementary Sir.



    Gen. Pace: Every soldier and Marine on the ground over had body armor.

    Q: I heard there was a shortage of armor like 40,000 troops didn’t have armor?


    Gen. Pace: No.




    It's an urban legend, but liberals and Bush bashers love to believe it.

    My final word. Back on topic.
     
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    That's what GI's do. Most of them are not willing to carry the extra weight it takes to sleep on a mat or air mattress.
     
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    So why did the soldiers buy their that the army first promised to reimburse, then reneged? Is it that the convoy guys who were bombed & shot at weren't technically in combat?

    Hey, I didn't bring it up, so it's hardly my subject.

    Why plural? The guy is probably going to lose his business - what more vengence would you have?
     
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    It seems like the kid is in college. He was tracked down through the web-site - now the whole family is in for it.
     
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    He probably won't lose his business. All the local muslims will see to it and the word has probably already spread among the local mosques.
     
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    Then General Pace lied. The DOD lied at the beginning. It is far from liberals and Bush bashers spreading some urban legend.

    Here are four stories about it in the major media that came up on the first page of google. Besides, I know a family who had a son in combat in Iraq and they were trying to raise money for the body armor.

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2004-03-26-body-armor_x.htm

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9524109/

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,101061,00.html

    http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0930/dailyUpdate.html

    And if I remember correctly, the Iraqi troops were being supplied while our own troops went without. I was stunned and angered about it when the news first broke.

    Whether it's mattresses, body armor, upgraded humvees or whatever, the DOD has an obligation to supply our soldiers sent into harm's way with the best of everything possible. Color me disgusted.
     
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    as bad as it is, it's not more harsh then i've read on this board in the past.
     
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    Vengeance - no . . . justice - yes!

    Send the entire family to Baghdad . . .
     
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    You need to reread your own sources. Only 2 anecdotal references to no body armor, 2 to relatives buying lower body armor (not provided to anyone) and several references to out of style or older body armor which is what the real complaint was.

    I repeat. No soldier went into combat with no body armor at all unless it was by choice. Your sources are unconvincing based on my recollections at the time. And they also confirmed my recollections.

    This really is my final word. It's off topic, it's out of date, it doesn't matter anymore, and Daisy only brought it up to deflect attention away from the muslim problem.
     
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