McCain in bad spot

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  1. LeBuick

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    McCain is in a very bad position.

    The democrats have said they will wait for him to state his view on the proposal in public before they vote. He can't win.

    If he stands for the proposal, he will be accused of more voting with Bush and with 2/3 of republicans being against this proposal, that is a real loser.

    If he votes against and the market crashes, he will be accused of not reacting and letting the economy fail.

    This is why McCain wanted to suspend campaigning and flee to the Hill. This isn't about saving the economy, it's about saving his run for office. This is also why he asked Bush to call this meeting between Bush, Obama and McCain. This way he doesn't loose any political position with the proposal the come to together.

    I am very surprised Obama agreed to this meeting except I think if he didn't go folks would say he isn't interested in fixing the problem.

    Seeing the post about him not suspending his campaign lets me know I was right.

    I will say this for McCain, he is a shrewd politician but I think they need to address the people in the debate on Friday. The people want to hear from their future leader and not the usual jabs, we want the other candidate to be able to respond to accusations.
     
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    In my opinion, in the long run it is a mistake for Senator Obama to meet with President Bush. He should continue to allow Senator McCain to be identified with President Bush and his failed economic policies.

    Neither candidate has been involved in the negotiations. Let the committee chairmen and the ranking members continue to hammer out a proposal.
     
  3. LeBuick

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    That would have been good until the Dem's forced McCain's hand by saying they won't vote until they hear his position. I don't think they foresaw his reaction. I have to admit, McCain didn't last 26 years on the Hill for looking pretty. He made a very smart move. :laugh:
     
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    McCain was in a worse spot when he was a POW. He will come out of this looking like the hero he is and Obama will come out looking like the arrogant selfish, self-centered, self-serving power hungry maniac that he is.
     
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    Wanna bet? :laugh:
     
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    Both of you send me a $20 bill.... and I will hold it for you! lol
     
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    Then I will spend them.
     
  8. KenH

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    You might want that to be in gold. :)
     
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    Yeh, it might not be worth the money it's printed on, lol. We might be on euros or pesos by Monday. :laugh:
     
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    Obama was in a worse spot when his father and then his step father left his mother. He's come a long way from such difficult beginnings.
     
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    Wow.. Ken and Ladyeagle agrees!

    I should be a politician! I can bring people together!
     
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    I don't know about a hero, the best he can do is not go down any further. American is frustrated with the Republican philosophy and it is showing in the polls. He would first have to surpass the bad taste of republican before he can move to the hero category. This is even more reason he should want the debate Friday. Whether he gets legislation to pass or not, he needs to make his case to the people and show how he is different than Bush. He is center stage with the mic, now is his chance.
     
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    I retract my previous statements.

    I am 100% against a bail out. In fact, I'm angry about it.

    Let the chips fall where they may. McCain has himself boxed in and will lose the election over this once the average American citizen realizes how the Administration and Congress (both houses) have stuck it to us once again. Worse yet, Obama was in on it too to get the situation where it is now.

    Why even bother to vote? Our country is too far gone. :tear:
     
  14. LeBuick

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    I agree except saying Obama was the only one in on it. I think the Hill to inclue Bush are all guilty.

    Other than that, great post! :thumbs:
     
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    And who is playing politics with our future here?
     
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    I may have to disagree too...Obama was too busy either running for President or voting "present"; so can he really be blamed? But then again he voted against the war in Iraq before he was in the US Senate, so i'm not real sure anymore.
     
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    McCain is not in a bad spot and no case has been made to prove such out side of wishful thinking.
     
  18. LeBuick

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    The part about the Dem's not voting until McCain commits one way or another is all over the news. I admit I did inject my view toward what each vote means. He can't win no matter how he votes which is why I believe he rushed to the Hill and wants the meeting with Bush and Obama so his support for either side can be shared by the trio.


    Now we have today, McCain is being given credit for his decision to put everything on hold and rush to DC to save the nation. However, he is still in NY where he just gave a speech before the Clinton Initiative. :thumbs:

    So here are the options I see now, McCain can go to the Hill with his own plan and get buy in from both sides of the isle OR they can all end up at the White House for a great photo OP complete with leaders of the committee's who should be hammering out a solution and the negotiations only get further behind.

    Anyone see other outcomes that can come from McCain going to the Hill? My understanding is the negotiations are taking place behind close doors and since McCain is not on any of the committee's he is not allowed in. He could endorse and reject the plan without going to DC so I'm not sure what else he can accomplish by suspending his campaign and going to NY for a speech (I mean DC to save the nation).

    I don't see them coming up with any kind of plan from this meeting with the president but I could be wrong. If they do come out of that meeting with a plan that passes, does that make McCain the hero? How will America view him on the subject of economics if this happens?
     
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    You can not be comparing growing up in a broken home to that of being a POW.
     
  20. LeBuick

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    The father was not there in both cases... :thumbs:
     

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