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McCain proposal for joint action gains support

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  1. carpro

    carpro Well-Known Member
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    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080530/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_league_of_democracies

    McCain proposal for joint action gains support

    By BARRY SCHWEID, AP Diplomatic Writer
    23 minutes ago


    WASHINGTON - Gaining ground this political season is a proposed League of Democracies designed to strengthen support for the next president's overseas agenda and ensure a global leadership role for the United States.

    John McCain, the virtually certain Republican presidential nominee, has endorsed the concept of a new global compact of more than 100 democratic countries to advance shared views and has discussed the idea with French and British leaders.

    "It could act where the U.N. fails to act," he said last month, and pressure tyrants "with or without Moscow's and Beijing's approval."
     
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    carpro Well-Known Member
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    Great idea!!!!:applause:

    McCain has been reading my posts on the alternatives to a corrupt and ineffective U.N. :thumbs:
     
    #2 carpro, May 30, 2008
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    Like the man who poured a six-pack of beer down the commode, they'd be cutting out the middleman.
     
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    Seriously, I don't see how this would be any more effective than NATO is. We already cannot achieve much consensus there.
     
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    The U.N. is controlled by petty tyrants and repressive dictators. They would be removed from the mix. And should be.

    Situations like Darfur could be addressed instead of stymied by a cabal of muslim tyrants.

    A consensus on some matters will still be difficult to meet, but the right people will be making the decisions.

    It's worth a try.

    NATO was organized primarily as a defense alliance and was not meant to use economic and diplomatic pressure to stop things like genocide and aid countries during times of famine.
     
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    True and it would definately be an improvement over the UN. But even among democratic nations as make up NATO we still have a hard time agreeing on very much. But worth a try.
     
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    NATO is no longer primarily a defense alliance for western Europe. I see nothing in Senator JSM III's proposal that would be an improvement over NATO since it is not restricted to only western European nations now.
     
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    Yes but the alliance is being discussed as a replacement for the UN, in which case it has some merit.
     
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    >The U.N. is controlled by petty tyrants and repressive dictators.

    Sort of like the USofA? At least we know who is controlling the UN. We don't know who is controlling the US.
     
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    I wasn't aware they had rewritten their charter.
     
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    Good that he has been reading!
     
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    Just look at reality, carpro.
     
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    Read the charter, Ken.

    That is reality. Not your opinion.
     
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    Staying on topic. :thumbs:
     
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    What part of the charter covered NATO intervening in the former Yugoslavia?
     
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    Quote:
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    Yes but the alliance is being discussed as a replacement for the UN, in which case it has some merit.






    Worth repeating.
     
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    Such an organization might not spend all it's time writing up resolutions condemning Israel, as the UN currently does. So that alone could free the members up to discuss agendas. And no more blue helmets getting into mischief. At least that is the theory.
     
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    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121279497528053595.html?mod=djemEditorialPage

    Your U.N. at Work – IV
    June 7, 2008; Page A10

    The General Assembly of the United Nations voted this week to elect Miguel d'Escoto Brockmann as its new president. Readers with a long memory will recall Father D'Escoto (he's a Catholic priest) as Nicaragua's foreign minister during the Sandinista regime of the 1980s. He's also the winner of the 1985 Lenin Prize. Only at the U.N. does that count as a recommendation.

    The U.N. also voted to name the government of Burma – which otherwise has been busy preventing humanitarian assistance from reaching hundreds of thousands of its own needy victims of last month's devastating cyclone – as one of the Assembly's vice presidents. Only at the U.N. is this not considered an embarrassment.
     
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    [personal attack snipped] evidenced by the ridiculous conspiracy theories to which he subscribes.

    There are already enough alliances and organizations. One more will do nothing.
     
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    Until we have one to replace the corrupt and ineffective UN, we have one too few.
     
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