Me and my Scofield

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  1. BobinKy

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    Can I tell a little story?

    I am on my third Scofield.

    The first Scofield I owned was the Classic Edition KJV, in which I underlined and marked the notes at the bottom of the pages. Soon, as others have said, the Scofield Classic began to come apart somewhere between Genesis chapters 1 and 3. "What is this--the gap theory doing something to my Bible?" I said over and over again in those days of dispensationalism.

    Next, I purchased the 1967 Scofield--and kept it for two weeks.

    And one day in 1998, while out calling on business customers, I stopped at the Grace Christian Bookstore in Xenia, Ohio and purchased the Oxford Old Scofield KJV Large Print Edition. Although it was not called Old Scofield at that time, just Scofield Large Print. In the Scofield Classic I had owned earlier, I made it through the Scofield system twice, but my theology was moving on. Nevertheless, I wanted something to remind me of those Scofield days and nights.

    I fell in love with the Oxford Scofield KJV Large Print Edition. The pages were so big and the type so large--I would not need a magnifying glass to read the notes and the Oxford maps were exquisite. So, I purchased my third Scofield that day from the owner at full markup--$89.00 plus tax. The owner threw in a bright red KJVO bumper sticker.

    And now for the end of the story, and a photograph.

    If you own a Scofield Bible--look at the Consulting Editors block on the Title Page. Find the following Consulting Editor.

    Rev. W. G. Morehead, D.D.
    President Xenia (U.P.) Theological Seminary
    A few months after I purchased the Scofield Large Print, I decided to find out about Xenia Theological Seminary, since I traveled through the town on business from time to time. The seminary began in the 1850s and merged with the Pittsburgh Theological Seminary in 1919, five years after Dr. Morehead's death. Despite the 70-year absence, I was able to locate one of the buildings (built in 1908) that housed all or part of the Xenia Theological Seminary in Scofield's day. Hey, Cyrus Ingerson Scofield probably preached at the seminary from time to time! Probably walked up the same oak staircase that I walked up when I scheduled a tour of the building. At least that is what I tell myself.

    Today, the building is home to a Methodist church--better than a flea market or apartment house. If you made it this far in the story, here is what I promised you--a photo of the Xenia Theological Seminary.


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    Do you have a story about a Scofield Bible?

    ...Bob
     
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  2. Mexdeaf

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    Loved your story.

    I've only owned one. Dr. Lee Roberson wasn't much of a promoter of Scofield's Bibles- I never heard him once say, "Turn to page ... of your Scofield Bible." :)

    I tend not to buy Bibles with study notes in them, although I do appreciate parallel passage and translational notations.
     
  3. Crabtownboy

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    I have no particular opinion on Scofield. My wife tells the story of when she entered a Bible class. The professor said,
    "I do not care what Bible you use as long as it is not a Scofield. I do not know if he did not like Scofield or if he wanted his students to think on their own and not rely on a ready reference in the classroom.

    Here is a link to an online version of the 1917 edition.

    http://www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/scofield-reference-notes/
     
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  4. mcdirector

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    The first Bible I owned that was not a hardback was a Scofield. It got a lot of wear but when I replaced it, I got one without any notes.
     
  5. Ed Edwards

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    I wrote this for another venue: // TeeHee!

    The only Church I was ever at with a specified editor, edition, version, and translation Bible was a KJVx. It contained the Scofield 2.0 Notes. So the preacher could say things like "Look at note 5 on page 1234" -- everybody could go there :) I do not have one of these now to check and see which edition it is. But I had it rebound twice during the 34 years I was married to it's owner. I gave it to Her Sister after she died.

    Now I have a New King James Version (nKJV) which has the Scofield 3.0 Notes in it. I was teaching from 1 Cor 13 when I spilled a whole cup of coffee on it. So clear into Revelation it has pages that -- well, they look like somebody spilt coffe on them :)

    BTW, note 2 on page 1169 (at Matthew 24:34) gives two possible meanings of 'generation'
    1. a future generation which will see the Second Advent of Messiah Jesus
    2. a 'race' or ''family" of people -- i.e. the race of the Jews that were present at mount Olivet.

    Ha! I have Matthew 24:31 talking about the pre-tribulation resurrection/RAPTURE (not the post-tribulation RESURRECTION/rapture). Sorry, nobody told C.I. Scofield, D.D. about the neat idea i had :-( \\
     
  6. Amy.G

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    This thread reminds of me our fellow bb brother Ed Sutton who passed away. He told the story of how his beloved Scofield bible was stolen from his cab probably 1000 times over the years he was here. :laugh:

    God bless his soul. :flower:
     
  7. Mexdeaf

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    I was not aware that Ed had passed away. I guess he won't need my prayers any more.
     
  8. SBCPreacher

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    After my dad retired from the Navy, he went to seminary and pastored for about 15 years, then retired for real!

    I have the Scofield he used to preach from.
     
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    Ed Edwards,

    I've been trying to get back with you since resuming activity here in July.
    In January of 2006 we discussed My Outline on Endtime Events for 3 weeks.
    Now your reference to Scofield notes on Matt.24:31,34 caught my attention.
    My first Scofield, the 1917 edition, had the phrase about the "re-gathering
    of the elect" NESTED in the note to Matt.24:31. My present edition, 1967,
    has moved the NESTED phrase to the note in Matt.24:34. WHY?

    The editors finally realized the Elect (Jews) will be "re-gathered" AFTER the great tribulation! They still maintain the "Elect are Jews" and not all Believers whom Jesus promised to raise up on the last day"!! From our discussions in 2006, you believed the LAST DAY refers to Daniel's entire 7-year period!!!

    Can it be proved the Elect are limited to Jews being "re-gathered to Israel"?

    It is obvious the editors had a problem with this view of the Elect because they knew it doesn't jive with the reference to a "re-gathering AFTER the great tribulation"! It is "the gathering of believers together above 'from the earth' by Jesus and the completion by ANGELS of the "gathering of these believers upon the 4 winds AFTER the GT"!! Mark 13:24-27; Matt.24:29-31. It was obvious to me, many years ago, that Scofield didn't believe the "LAST DAY" occurs AFTER Great Tribulation!!!
    Mel
     
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  10. Bobby Hamilton

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    Cool story

    Sidenote: Glad someone found something useful out of Xenia, OH ;)
     
  11. Ed Edwards

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    It seems to me it is hard to keep up with which Scofield notes is which Scofield notes?

    For humor I to sing:

    My Hope is built on Nothing Less
    Than Scofield's notes
    And Broadman Press

    Broadman Press is now now Lifeway Press, an SBC = Southern Baptist Convention thing. The song really goes:

    My Hope is built on Nothing Less
    Than Jesus' blood
    And righetousness!

    But hey! 50 years ago I was 17-years-old and knew 400% more than I know now ;-)

    My eschatalogy is not based on Scofield's notes nor Broadman Press but upon the Written Word of God as printed in my NKJV and understood by the James 1:5 way.

    James 1:3 (Geneva Bible, 1599 Edition, e-sword.com edition):
    If any of you lacke wisedome, let him aske of God, which giueth to all men liberally, & reprocheth no man, and it shalbe giuen him.


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  12. mcdirector

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    hahaha

    I still slip up and Broadman Press and my personal favorite is the Baptist Sunday School Board. ;)
     
  13. thomas15

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    I have two Scofield's. One is a hard cover NKJV with the 1967 notes. It is in near perfect condition from underuse.

    The other belonged to the Sr. Pastor of the first church that my present pastor worked in as an assistant pastor when he first got out of seminary (BBC/BBS in Clarks Summit PA). From what I have heard, the Sr. pastor was a Godly man and powerful preacher and somewhat old fashoned. This Scofield of his is a KJV 1967 notes in indexed leather. It is not in very good shape but I like it because it gets me to thinking about the dedication this man had to the Word of God. I also have about 100 books from this pastors library.
     

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