I decide to start new topic. Because, Lacy oftens discuss on millennial kingdom at other topic thread. He oftens say of 'kingdom' means millennium. He needs to prove a verse saying 'kingdom' means a thousand years in the Bible. Nee, Whipple, Faust and others who teaching on millennial exclusion, these are unbiblical, and these are filled of theology and philosophy. I reject them. Early Church understood the word, 'kingdom' is from above with spiritual sense which speaks of salvation. Does the Bible actual saying that the 'kingdom' itself, means a thousand years? Silence. Where did they get the idea comes from? I would like to introduction three camps of millennial, what they believe: Premillennial: Believes there shall be literal future 1000 years reign on physical earth follow at the second coming. Postmillennial: Believes Church is currently revolutionizing the world into nearly perfect state, then come a very brief apostasy at the end of the age follow second coming. I believe many postmills are preterists. Mostly are full-preterists. I have no idea what Grasshopper believe about millennial position Amillennial: Believes Church is currently reign with Christ in heaven and on earth as the church carrys the gospel over the world since Calvary and will be completed follow at the second coming. Even, believe sin is still existing over the world, as the apostasy becomes worst climax toward second coming About 80 to 90% of premills are pretrib/disp so far I am aware of. About 95% of Independent Fundamental Baptists in America are premill. There are about 50% of premills are postrib in America. 100% of amills are all postrib. 100% of postmills are postrib. But, I would like to tell you something on preterism. There are two groups of preterism. Partial preterism believe Matthew chapter 24 mostly are already fulfilled in 70 A.D. but, believe literal future physical second coming of Christ. Full preterism believes everything in the Bible, included Matthew 24 are ALL fulfilled in 70 A.D. they believe second coming already occured in 70 A.D. There are about 70% of amills are partial preterism. About 30% of amills are full preterism. Myself are not partial preterial or full preterial either. But, many areas that I do agree with partial preterism on part of Matthew 24 like verse 15 was already fulfilled in 70 A.D., that, Roman army invaded Jerusalem, and destroyed Herod temple, and there was not one stone left remain, it was destroyed completed as what Christ prophesied in Matt. 24:2. Also, some areas, I do agree with full preterists saying Matthew 24 was already fulfilled in 70 A.D., even, I agree with full preterists saying that we are already under the new covenant because of calvary, many of O.T. prophecies were all fuflfilled focus on calvary relates with the covenant. I strongly disagree with full preterism, they believe second coming was already occured in 70 A.D. They deny future literal physical and visibly second coming of Christ. They interpreting verses into spiritually too much. Now, back to focus on millennial issue. Premills saying on amillennialism, itself deny future literal 1000 years which find in Revelation 20:2-7, so therefore, they deny the truth as what the Bible actual saying. Also many premills like Hal Lindsey accuse at amills, they called them, 'antiSemite' means against Jews. That is not true. So far, I am aware, NONE of amills saying that, they are against Jews. Many premills love Jews and even, also Israel too. That's wonderful for them. I am true that God is blessing premills for supporting Jews and Israel. Let you know. Pat Roberson is postrib, but, he is premill. He loves Jews so much, and focus on Israel. I do have Jew friends, I never stab their back. I respect them well. Even, they are my brothers in Christ. There is much misunderstanding within premill camp's view toward amillennialism, what they actual believe. Firstly, I want to tell you something on the common things what both premill and amill are agree on: 1. Christ died on the cross for our sins 2. Christ came to earth to died on the cross was the first advent 3. Apostasy become worst over the world for a long time throughout this present age 4. We shall be raptured 5. Jesus is coming again 6. There shall be literal phsyical resurrection of the saints' body 7. We all shall face the judgment seat of Christ 8. We all shall reign with Christ on earth - phyiscally and literal 9. this present old planet earth shall be destroyed physically(full preterism believes it already occured in 70 A.D. OH PLEASE!!! ) 10. God will create new heavens and new earth literally and phsyically 11. We shall reign with Christ on new earth forever and ever So far, I know what things both premills and amills are having the common things, they are agree same. But, premills and amills both have different understanding on 'Israel' relates with God's program. About over 90% of premills are dispensationalism. Most amills are not dispensationalism. Many amills are covenant theology. I agree with covenant theology, but not neccesscary for me being be covenant theology. I understand clear what the Bible teaching us as what God have planning for us and the purpose of Calvary, what it is all about. So far, this is the first post, I make an introduction on millennial. Next post, I will discuss on verses which, speak of 'thousand', what these are talking about. The reason is, I want all of you to understand Revelation chapter 20 more clear. To be Continued.... In Christ Rev. 22:20 -Amen!