Mechanics of a Perfect Translation

Wow

JoJ, I cannot even imagine what difficulties you are facing in this endeavor. I have a great respect for those that are able to undertake this work of preservation of God's Word.

Frankly, its all GREEK to me.

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I would have to say that the former interpretation is more in-line with the intent of the believing unto salvation principle taught by the Lord Jesus to the woman at the well in John 4.

To be in the desert of sin perishing for the water of life is the answer to the metaphor.

Everyone dies in this flesh.

I know many Jews who deny the Scriptures that declare that anyone who believes will not die due to the fact all men die in this flesh. They deny the doctrine of eternal life in this manner due to thier spiritual blindeness.

If you're going to teach spiritual things from a natural perspective with only natural elements, might I suggest you're the blind leading the blind? Yes.

 

And this makes sense how?

The Greek word (apollumi) is not speaking of 'perishing from thirst' it is speaking of death. Jesus was not speaking mataphorically he was speaking plainly.

 

In case you haven't noticed, perishing from thirst is death.

 

I recommend you study your Bible before you take things into the realm of cultural differences before you translate the Bible.

 

Maybe so in your mind but that isn't what Jesus said. Not even in the KJV.

 

Yes, what do I mean. :laugh:

A man who is "called" to a different culture asks this question?

Our cultural differences are to be overcome, not our overcoming.

 

The "error" would be in the pidgin since it is a conglomeration of at least two languages effected by multiple dialects and
according to region. I thought everyone knew that.raying:

Anymore straws worth grasping?:tonofbricks:

Thirsty also means a lack of water. In the absence of water life ceases to exist, in any language. So death is the end result of thirst without the intervention of life-giving water. Now, if you really want to translate the spiritual meaning into another tongue, you'd best explain that aspect of eternal life. Unless it's your motive to displace the Spirit in the effort to satisfy the palate of that culture.

It may be your arrogance in your venture is the root cause of your lacking the wisdom and understanding one needs in such an endeavor.

If you want to leave out the spiritual truth in accordance to what thus saith the Lord it is your business and not the Lord's.:BangHead:

 

There you go John:

[sarcasm] If you were really saved, you'd be teaching Japanese people 17th-century English. [/sarcasm

Hoo boy.

 

Um, you'd best go read your Bible.

"Perishing" anywhere in the Bible results in death without a prior intervention to prevent the death that will ultimately otherwise occur.

Or is it you believe the word of God isn't the water necessary for the abundent Christian life?

Hmm, I hadn't realized before this conversation the depths apostacy had reached!

 

Ok, so you believe he ought to teach 21st century English to the Japanese without consulting root words and their meanings.

What I discern is bitterness on your behalf, possibly towards your 11th grade English teacher.

For anyone to have a working knowledge of any language, they'd best understand the poetic graces of that language.

Though many accusse the KJB to be written in a Shakespearian sort, portraying a definite ignorance when they do, the Elizabethan English in which it is awarded to resemble the most, is where we find the most affluence when the English poetic graces are to be exemplified.

Disagree? Well, your 11th grade English Language Arts teacher is still looking to bend your fingers back and smack her ruler repeatedly against your palm until you learn something.

 

Well, I for one won't waste any more time casting my pearls before Salamander. He obviously has all of the answers and does not need us 'apostates' to help him out.

JOJ, it's your thread....

 

Stay bitter, it's bound to accomplish much in your life.