Memorization

Discussion in 'Bible Versions/Translations' started by Dr. Bob, May 1, 2010.

  1. Dr. Bob

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    As mentioned on another thread, I've never counted the number of verses memorized, but I thought "hundreds", then figured it was really "thousands". Not boasting, just the way I was discipled.

    Now, I "update" the verses memorized into real language not the archaism (change "it" to "him talking of the holy Spirit, etc). Whoever instead of whosoever. And drop the "eth" and "est"

    Someone (of course) mocked this, thinking I lied.

    But to show I'm from a different era, for a 2-credit class in "Evangelism" in 1965 every student had to memorize word AND punctuation perfect 10 verses a week (18 week semester then, and finals week we only had five verses - total 175 for ONE small class)

    Some were passages. Isa 53, John 3:11-21, I Jn 1, Rom 5, Rom 3. Most were by subject so 10 verses selected by the prof on eternal security, romans road, virgin birth, etc

    In a 2 credit course on Psalms in Seminary we memorized a psalm a week - you figure the verse total. Ps 1,19,23,90,91,100,115,119:1-11,121,149 etc

    When saying I'd memorized verse I caught myself and looked back at the hundreds required in Baptist college and seminary, then 40 years of pastoring - and I realize it was EASILY in the thousands.

    Sadly, now in my 60's and many are dropping from the radar. I can remember a verse, but not the zip code!!

    So
    1. Verses YOU memorized (like my testimony above - passages, single verse, etc)?
    2. Version or "hybrid"?
    3. Favorites that you often "pull back" from memory and use again and again?

    (Not boasting, just setting the naysayers to rest)

    Thanks
     
  2. Deacon

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    I became a believer in my early high school years with not much of a church background before then.

    My first bible, a NASB Reference bible (it was new back then) and my first study bible was a New Scofield KJV.

    The summer of my junior year I moved to Pennsylvania and spent a long quiet summer painting the interior of an old civil war era factory.

    My goal, a verse a day, five a week.

    I used a conservative bible college's statement of faith to start me out.
    The memoriztion verses became the foundation for my theology.


    I never matched that rate ever again but still manage to memorize swatches once a year.

    I memorize in a conglomeration of different versions.

    Rob
     
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    Memorization is great, but we have to memorize the context, too, if we're going to recall them and use them faithfully.
     
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    I always figured it was best to know the book and chapter but not necessarily the verse "address". And as I get older- about 5-10 years behind Dr. Bob- I'm doing good if I can remember those (book and chapter).

    I find it humorous when I am criticized for not quoting exactly. Most of the time those that criticize me could not quote the first chapter of John if their life depended upon it.
     
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    One of the reasons I use an old Scofield (since 1957) is that it has the exact same layout. So I will know WHERE on a page a verse is, even if I can't remember the verse reference (or even which book since sometimes I know its in a prison epistle but not which one)

    The "old shoe" is why I opt for that, even if some of Scofield's notes are loopy and it is KJV1769 oxford, not a favorite today with so many other good modern translations available.
     
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    My Pastor has also memorized thousands of verses from the KJV1769. He uses the NASB (New American Standard Bible) in the pulpit. If he comes across a hard to understand word or phrase, he will quote the KJV to help explain it.
     
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    The KJV doesn't do a lot to explain the NASB - they are basically the same style of translation, although the NASB is more accurate.
     
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    I have memorized scores of verses, and I find it easier to memorize them from the KJV cuz it's not in my everyday language & therefore they stand out to me more than the common language does. I could always remember HOF football player Alex Wojciechowicz' name easier than, say, Billy Shaw's.

    I remember the MEANING of many verses more than the exact words as rendered in a particular version.
     
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    A very astute point. That is why it is so important to UNDERSTAND the Bible- in whatever translation it is you choose to use.
     
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    You speak the truth.
     
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    Good thoughts, all.

    Bottom line - memorize with understanding! I have John 1:1-14 memorized word perfect from the GREEK!! But quoting would make me sound ubersmart and be of no value to anyone (even modern Greeks would have hard time making heads or tails of it).

    Know what it says in whatever phrasing best helps you!
     
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    You at least have to know the context. Many of the verses we quote we are aware of the context, but we know if quoted out of context they can be misleading.

    I agree with Dr. Bob, however. I have memorized thousands of verses.
    The principle in memorization is "If you don't use it, you lose it."
    When I was younger I committed to memory the books of: I John, Ephesians, James, and Romans, as well as hundreds of other verses and passages. Most of the first chapter of James I can still quote, but only because I review it every so often. The other books I am very familiar with, but I can't quote them word for word, not any more.

    Proper memorization requires review and plenty of it. I don't have the time to review entire books of Scripture, and therefore I cannot quote them anymore. But I am very familiar with those Scriptures when someone preaches out of them.
     
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    Start memorizing Scripture when you're young. As I've gotten older, it gets harder as my brain starts to fade and......


    ....what was I talking about? :laugh:
     
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    Tom, I know what you mean. I am so glad that Dr. Bob started a thread on memorization I kept meaning to start one myself, but I would forget too.
     
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    Hello everyone

    This thread kind of reveals the problem of not having a single authoritative Bible in what ever language you may speak.

    The whole point of memorizing Scripture is being able to recall “exactly” what God said in his Word.

    The idea of saying you have memorized a verse or passage, but then admitting that you only know the point the passage is making, defeats the whole purpose of memorization.
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    The Words of Scripture are what were inspired, not the points or the messages.

    God’s Word is supernatural, therefore it says “more” than what it actually says.
    This is why we can be reading a passage, they we may have studied 100's of times before and see things in a passage for the first time.

    When “we” lower God’s Word to the level of “ideas” or “thoughts” instead of “inspired Words”, we rob it of the ability change our lives as we continue to study it.
     
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    This is just so much poppycock. And that's putting it nicely. Try it again when YOU hit your 50's or 60's.
     
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    I believe stilllearning made a very good point and for you to dismiss it as poppycock shows very bad judgment on your part.
     
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    Which is precisely why we should memorize scripture in Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic only. :eek:

    When I was young, the KJV was what was available to me. Thus, when I'm digging verses out of dusty corners of my brain, I need a KJV concordance handy, because that's how much is remembered.

    My kids are memorizing from the NIV. I'm fairly certain they'll have to do the same when they're older (have an NIV concordance handy).

    I'm working on memorizing the Book of Romans (I'm about 1/3 of the way there). I'm doing so from the NIV. No worries...other than memorizing is slower work now than it was 30 years ago.
     
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    You have the right to be just as wrong as he is. That's my judgment.

    Let me ask you this since you seem to know everything-

    Is it wrong to teach a child to memorize a portion of a verse Scripture?

    Many children memorize only the last portion of 1 John 4:8-

    He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

    Is it wrong because they cannot quote the entire verse?

    Would it be wrong for them to memorize-

    "He that does not love does not know God, for God is love."

    Honestly now?
     
  20. Mexdeaf

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    The English words, the punctuation, spelling, grammar, verse and chapter divisions are not necessarily inspired.

    Insofar as those things are true to the originals, they are inspired.
     

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