Dude, (dude now = Carpro now that the name of this thread has been changed) You and I have been rivals on this board during the "Bush years" and I'm pretty sure we enjoyed it. Know I did anyways. :laugh: No hard feelings on my part. Hope it's the same for you. Right now I'm thinking all that rivalry could change if Obama or Clinton is...I can't bring myself to say "elected president of the USA" so I'll stick with installed as CEO of Govcorp Inc. Not that McCain is any different. In that case we'll probably end up agreeing with each other more often than not...so don't be surprised. Alrighty? Now I'm always going to be against military adventurism and meddling in others affairs. But when it comes to these so called progressives and their collectivist garbage they're always trying to saddle us with I'm right there with ya brother. Just wanted to let ya know ahead of time.:smilewinkgrin: P.S. This message is for all those "righties" I've been arguing with over this past republicrat administration also.