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Mexican military flies over South Texas

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by freeatlast, Sep 5, 2011.

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  1. freeatlast

    freeatlast New Member

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    We have surrendered our sovereignty to Mexico in this area.
     
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  2. targus

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    So we can't ever tell them that they can no longer enter our airspace?
     
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    BTW - repeating the same thing over and over without supporting your position is a very weak debate technique.
     
    #43 targus, Sep 6, 2011
  4. Salty

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    Well, if thats all you have.....:tonofbricks:
     
    #44 Salty, Sep 6, 2011
  5. freeatlast

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    Who said that? Not me.
     
    #45 freeatlast, Sep 6, 2011
  6. targus

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    So if the U.S. can tell Mexico that they no longer may fly in U.S. airspace the U.S. has still lost sovereignty?

    Can you explain?
     
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    That sounds like an admission that all you have is repeating the same thing over and over since you have nothing to support your position.

    Thank you for that concession. :thumbs:
     
    #47 targus, Sep 6, 2011
  8. Squire Robertsson

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    From a Westerner's Perspective

    I own a piece of property. Another party wanted access through it for our mutual benefit. If we come to an agreement for access, they are not trespassing if they cross my land. In this case, the mutual benefit is doing damage to the cartels.
     
    #48 Squire Robertsson, Sep 6, 2011
  9. freeatlast

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    No we would then regain our sovereignty in that regard.
     
    #49 freeatlast, Sep 6, 2011
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    You seem to not understand sovereignty. It is a term that means one person or entity has total control. An example is God. He alone is sovereign. More then one person cannot hold sovereign rights unless they are the same person.
    In the case you gave you lost control and shared it with another. You lost your sovereignty over the property as it was divided between two. The fact that you both agreed is nice as it kept the other party from an invasion. However you still lost your sovereignty even if it was with permission just like the US has lost its sovereignty in this instance. The fact that we have made an agreement that another country can use our air space and land without escort only means that they are not doing an invasion because of permission, but we still abrogate our sovereignty.
     
    #50 freeatlast, Sep 6, 2011
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    That doesn't make a lick of sense.

    Did God lose His sovereignty when He gave Satan permission to mess with Job?
     
    #51 Don, Sep 6, 2011
  12. Mexdeaf

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    This is MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING. I live in South Texas. I'm more concerned about the people who swim across than I am about the ones who fly across.
     
    #52 Mexdeaf, Sep 6, 2011
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    Actually, God pointed Job out to Satan, knowing that Satan would ask to tempt him; therefore this was exactly what God wanted. If you notice the end of Job, God takes full responsibility for everything that happened to Job, the says "Who do you think you are to question me?"

    So, God was in 100 percent control throughout.
     
    #53 Havensdad, Sep 6, 2011
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    HD, are you saying that Free is wrong - oh perish the thought:laugh:
     
    #54 Salty, Sep 6, 2011
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    Yeup, they are heading south after spending not a small chunk of change during their stay.
     
    #55 Squire Robertsson, Sep 6, 2011
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    These kinds of stories are the result of careless and sensationalist media hype. The US does not lose sovereignty because allies use territory to attack an mutual enemy. We are not facing a 'Nazi America' because some local officials shut down a lemonade stand. Parental rights are not being denied because a judge sentences a woman for abusing her child.

    Responsible citizens get the whole story and think things over before spreading the hype.
     
    #56 NaasPreacher (C4K), Sep 7, 2011
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    Be Prepared....

    FAL is never wrong, and you will discover this when he bombards you with his knowledge of the Word, and tells you why you are wrong!
     
    #57 righteousdude2, Sep 7, 2011
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    (as is the U.S. government when they give permission for Mexican flights in U.S. space for drug interdiction)
     
    #58 Don, Sep 7, 2011
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    By your definition no country in the world throughout all of history has ever had sovereignty.
     
    #59 targus, Sep 7, 2011
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    LOL- Very true, that!
     
    #60 Mexdeaf, Sep 7, 2011
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